Elite Question

[bhs]

Got a call from a friend of mine at nationals and he said that O'Brien is selling the Elite for $990! This is a ski I really want to try but I have to confess its mainly for cosmetic and warranty reasons. The posts I have read don't seem to positive... am I missing something??? Good looking ski, good warranty and designed by the man himself! So I am looking for some feedback from those who have tried it and are riding it. Thanks

[Horton]

No. I Love this ski and pretty much every skier I have sold one to is very happy. I have sold 10 - 15 in the last year. For that price GET IT!

MS - shut up you are wrong.

[MattP]

the $990 Elite sounds like a special on the 2009 models. The 2010's are out and the 2011's are right around the corner. I bought mine from Horton and am really happy with it. It is a great ski! " For that price GET IT! "

[skidawg]

Don't look back, write the check, MS knows nothing

[ForrestGump]

Damn, I need to find someone who's there who can pick a 67 up for me.

[skidawg]

Shane,

 

get mueller to ride that 67 this week!

[jdarwin]

I have one coming back w/ Jones.  After riding Ward's this past weekend, I'm interested in spending some time on it and trying to dial it in for my style.  Andy is setting it up for me and Alvin has given me some tips regarding binding setup.  Good guys w/ lots of access to support.

[ForrestGump]

Dawg, He's waiting on a binding plate so he can bolt his back binding down.

[teammalibu]

I still think when i rode dawgs new 68 it was the best set I ever had but he wouldnt part with it.

I plan on spending some time on the new layup 68 this fall to see if it was for real or just a hot first date!! 

[ForrestGump]

I got right on Dawg's 67 and ran up to my pb on the 2nd set. Was about to pull the trigger on a used 67 but if I can find someone to pick me up one at nationals this week, I'll do that. 

[thager]

Elites a great ski. Just wished you guys changed your underwear as often!!!!

[skidawg]

Smokeless!

[Adam Caldwell]

Buy and Elite.  Best ski made right now.  Once your set up on the Elite, your sking will advance to another level.

[Dirt]

Skidawg, what numbers are you running on your 68 Elite?

[skidawg]

6.837, 2.509, I'm drawin a blank on dft, thinkin .934, haf 2 look and get back at u

[ForrestGump]

Dawg, a few weeks ago I think you said you were in the .791 to .794 range on dft.

[skidawg]

Not on the 68, gonna ck in a minute, maybe .835, I should kno this w out lookin

[skidawg]

Ok, just checked, me=bonehead, .7905 dft now, I've run it as far forward to .7935, hope smart didn't try .935, that may b funny though

[Dirt]

Thanks Ward I'll try those numbers today. Where are you running the front binding?

[ForrestGump]

Dude, if I say it's so, It's so! LMAO

[skidawg]

Front binding should be bt 30 1/8" to 30": I've tried both, I like 30 better

[Dirt]

Thanks Dawg (and Shane for saving me from an interesting ride)

[Horton]

darn!

 

[Dirt]

Went back to rubber bindings from Strada and used Skidawgs numbers...way better so far. Seems to get better as the line gets shorter.

[jdarwin]

Just picked up my new Elite (thanks for bringing back from Nationals Scot).  Not sure how it will compare to my current ride but the craftsmanship is amazing!  This thing is a work of art.  Andy set the fin up so we'll see how it performs when I get back in town tomorrow.

P.S. - got Ward's Prodigy's w/ me also - very nice looking set up.

[swerveit]

Has anyone measured up with a reflex on a 68? what would anyone recommend for 36mph?

(Currently im at 30")

 

thanks

[jdarwin]

I'm using a Reflex front and mounted up at 30.125 per Andy's recommendation.  He stated either 30 or 30.125.

And, Andy's fin setting on my ski is a bit different - 6.855 (tips), 2.500, .777.  That is longer, shallower and further back than most.  Should be an interesting ride.

[Old MS Accout]

JD,

Get a donar lined up prior to skiing so the wait time isnt so long.

[skidawg]

That's it MS, ur in trouble now! Told u not to go there, Eh!

[scoke]

HOrton: "No. I Love this ski and pretty much every skier I have sold one to is very happy. I have sold 10 - 15 in the last year. For that price GET IT!"

 

"Pretty much" sounds like "every skier". Maybe "most not all" would be more appropriate....

 

[swerveit]

Thanks jdarwin, however Andys settings are for a 67" , im on a 68, was wondering where I should be? I actually think im slightly less than 30.... which looking at Andys settings and considering im on a 68; cant be good..

[Old MS Accout]

Dawg,

Its hard to stay out of this one.

[Horton]

Try as hard as you can.

[skidawg]

My numbers are similiar for both skis, a bit shallower on bigger ski and a bit further forward, jd's ski was set up for him by Andy, not andy's numbers

[MrJones]

Swerveit,

Andy set those numbers for Joe's 68 before I picked it up at nationals.

[swerveit]

hey guys

 

thanks allot, il give them a try, cant be any worse than it is at the moment....

[swerveit]

Out of interest what would be the pros and cons of being around 29.8 ish?

[Alvin_Neff]

Swervit, you might notice a disadvantage in your offside turn on this ski being back on the 68.  As you get closer to 30 and 1/8th you will see a better offside turn and possibly a more stable ski being in the middle of the sweet spot.  Andy has been moving some bindings back a little this year but you must also move the fin back with the binding.  The nelwy redesigned 68" is  completely different than last year's ski.  The numbers for the newest layup are: .785,2.490,6.860 with front binding at 30" from the tail.  You can email me @ alvinneff@mac.com if you have any questions for me.  Good luck with getting your ski dialed in, you will love it once you find your settings!

[jdarwin]

With Andy's numbers, the ski felt much different than when I skied on Ward's last weekend (Ward's numbers are shorter, deeper and forward).  The on-side turn is much smoother and doesn't drop in too hard - this was my biggest complaint w/ Ward's ski and the 68" I rode last year.  The off-side is nice but a bit "sticky" and doesn't move out off the 2nd wake w/o some effort.  I'll probably take out some of the length but the depth and DFT seem to work well.  BTW, I put my calipers on the ski last night and came up with 6.855 / 2.500 / .781 DFT - 8 deg wing.

[Bruce_Butterfield]

I was blowing the tail occasionally at 2.505 and increased depth to 2.515.  Bindings at 30, but I may try moving them back 1/8 or so.

The new 68 is a totally different ski and overall the best ski I've ridden in at least 5 years.  (Four sets so far)

[skidawg]

Glad you made the trip over and took mine for a spin. What length and dft u running bruce

[Bruce_Butterfield]

Yes, definitely worth the trip. 

 

Andy set it up for 6.860 and 0.78.  Seems about right.

[swerveit]

thanks for everyones help, @ Alvin, may take you up on that offer.

the offside does feel tighter and i can drive the tip through to the white stuff and pick the load up later.

im kinda floating around andys settings and am a little more consistent. however moving my binding forward did give me a problem on my onside.

for some reason i was getting to much out of the buoy and having to throw the handle.. it was turning me in a circle... literally! as such i have learnt to keep still and patient, any attempt to over ride the skis natural ability to to turn offers you a swift response of "GET OF ME" proceeded by a water start and missing your pass.

 

every mow and then i force myself to free ski, im a scrapper and as such have had to change my style of skiing. the free skiing shows me what the ski can really do. i just need to transfer that into the course!