Baller Cash Prize Event

[Horton]

What is most interesting? We are getting close to a Baller Cash Prize Event in addition to the Atlanta ProAM. I am looking for feedback about the format. This is an event for skiers with a USAWS score. In time other events will happen for non-USAWS skiers.

[Horton]

To be clear. This has nothing to do with the Atlanta ProAM. That is all set & will be the highlight of the Baller year. More news on the ProAM in a day or two.

 

What I am talking about here is more of a backyard event with some money on the line.

[MattP]

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[JMN]

The buckeye bouy tour in OH does really well with handicapped tournament based on bouy count average. Generally speaking if you best your average, that new high score is your average for the next round.

[ski4xtc]

The handicap method would allow women to compete.

[Kelvin]

I have no chance of winning anything but a handicapped event. Oh wait, with guys like @OB (coming off injury, or having the breakout year) I have no chance of winning a handicapped event either. Oh well, I ski tournaments for the fun of it.

[Horton]

@Kelvin If Baller events becomes a thing, I would like to see a number of formats. I want to see the full on 41 off guys go at it and I want to encourage the 15 off guys. The hard part is you can not really put them against each other.

[Kelvin]

@horton the handicap concept would work ok over the course of a summer series as scores level out. As you have noted, there are flaws in using the raw ranking list scores without some adjustment mechanism.

[Horton]

I need to get the formula that they use at Diablo. It is something like:

 

You compete against your USAWS average for 2 rounds to get into the head to head. Your score is the average of two rounds. (if 3 rounds maybe it is best 2 of 3)

 

Once in the Head to Head your average is reset by the average of your two rounds from the weekend.

 

The point is - you have to ski at or above your average to get in. Then you should be darn near equal with everyone in the head to head. The only way to win is to be consistent and to ski at or near your average.

[RichardDoane]

since they only use the top 3 scores for your USAWaterski average, anyone who skis a lot of tournaments, and can

consistently hits their average score at a big event, deserves to win the $$$, it's skiers like @OB who's average has gotten dusty that will throw a wrench in the handicapping works

[6balls]

It's also true that it's a little more difficult to beat one's average by a wide margin (lots of buoys) for the shortline skier. That's ok, though, if someone smashes a PB nice reward to see 'em in there.

[Horton]

@6balls I think the rules are going to say that your average must be into 32 off. So with at least 3 scores in the last 12 months and scores into 32 off no one should bust out 3 balls ahead of handicap. That is the plan at least. With some luck I will be announcing a west cost date soon!

 

[MattP]

@Horton I do like the Diablo method you posted. Seems logical for an even playing field over one weekend.

[Horton]

I do need to talk to Greg about his rules.