Baller 6balls Posted February 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2013 OK, I ski a 196 at the "swamp", but at home on the public lake I still have a near mint '91 Centurion Falcon Barefoot. Lots of space, looks cool, unique, and great for the occasional barefoot run or booze cruise w/friends. On our public lake it's main duty is pulling kids tubing, kneeboarding and wakeboarding. The outboard HATES kneeboard/wakeboard speed. It either wants to plane or settle in so I'm constantly tweaking the throttle and experimenting with trim. If we've got a boatload of spectators it's easier, but many times it's "Dad, will you take us wakeboarding" and I'm the only one in the boat. As some may know I've also got a history of competitive bench press...so I've got a number of spare 45 lb plates to spare. Should I put 'em under the hood of the closed bow or behind the back seat near the stern to get her to settle in at kneeboard/wakeboard speeds. Thoughts appreciated, THX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted February 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2013 For wake boarding, I would try the back seat... May keep the nose up consistently and get a better wake. My thought of them going up front would bring the nose down, but flatten the wakes... For slalom, up front for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted February 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2013 both. Get more hull in the water. More in the stern than bow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted February 11, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted February 11, 2013 Where's the Panda.......what's his name again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted February 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2013 @Wish Jody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted February 11, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted February 11, 2013 OK, I'll try better BOS etiquette; How many cases of beer should I place behind the rear seat and/or under the nose to make the old girl settle in at, gasp, wakeboard/kneeboard speed for the kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted February 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2013 Actually you need to experiment with the weights. Your goal is to either increase or decrease the speed at which your boat planes off. If you put the weights up front, the boat will plane off at a lower speed but the wake size will suffer some. Likewise, if you put the weight in the back, the boat will plane off at a higher speed and the wake size will be a little bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted February 11, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted February 11, 2013 Trimming the motor will also (I'm sure you already know that) make a difference with where and how you place the weight. So I think it's more of a trial and error thing. Does beer weigh more then lifting weights per square inch? At least with the beer you could get more precise with the distribution. To many cans....just empty them. I'd start with to many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted February 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2013 Point of interest. Steel/lead ballast is compact and such- but water doesn't count against you with the sheriff's boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted February 11, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted February 11, 2013 @jfw32, thanks. I'm trying to hold off planing speed so she doesn't climb on top. Once she planes at same throttle setting it can mean 5 or more mph. Same deal if one falls below the curve. Same rpm and lose 5 mph. Looking to make a "pig" of her and drive the power against the non-planing hull. @wish, the plates weigh more, just trying not to get a panda! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted February 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2013 How much do Panda's weigh? I'm sure Horton can help u out with that! (That comment is surely Panda worthy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted February 11, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted February 11, 2013 @6balls but figuring out weight distrabusion with full beer cans is way more fun =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 11, 2013 Administrators Share Posted February 11, 2013 Screw the Panda. I am thinking about knocking @6Balls from Solid Baller back to New Baller. http://media.tumblr.com/8b8dcc61136329d8d29acb61125ddd1c/tumblr_inline_mh5ihlTJiP1rxe4lt.gif Shock and despair courtesy http://whatshouldwecallski.tumblr.com Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 11, 2013 Administrators Share Posted February 11, 2013 Worse than the normal Panda. I just issued @6balls the Silly Panda badge. That way the shame is forever. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted February 11, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted February 11, 2013 The fact that I just spent real time trying to dream up a witty response and came up short shows I deserved the shocked squirrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Brady Posted February 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2013 @6balls I would just accept the panda and go with it brudda. Actually, it would make GREAT ballast in an of itself, so in essence, Horton helped you solve your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted February 11, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted February 11, 2013 @brady, I'm getting @horton a panda suit next Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Inboardfix Posted February 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2013 @6balls 1K lbs will make a noticeable difference for a wakeboarder (more would be better) and as mentioned it will be a balance between planning and wake height/definition. Generally, weight in the rear increases size and weight further forward helps definition. A good starting point would be a 65% back-35% forward ratio and adjust accordingly. I'd highly recommend getting ballast bags w/a high volume pump rather than mess with weights. Leaving that much additional weigh in your boat is tough on your trailer or boat lift and it is a pain to remove that much weight every time you put the boat up. With bags and a high volume pump (1500 gph or more) you can drain them in 10 minutes or so. Also, if your stern seat is removable you can place a bag in its place and it can be used as a seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted February 11, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted February 11, 2013 "1K lbs" in weight.....that's a lot of beer cans. Fill the bag with beer. Add some ice bags around it for extra weight and a tap.....done!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted February 11, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted February 11, 2013 @inboardfix thanks. I'm not super concerned about the wake quality. If my kids ever got serious I would bite the bullet and upgrade the boat. Overall, just trying to make it more driveable at the speed necessary so I'm not having to constantly make throttle adjustments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted February 13, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 13, 2013 Who is this 6balls character? Add some extra ballast (1500 lbs. plus ) and you could be the first on the lake to own a submarine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andy Posted February 13, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 13, 2013 Fill a fat sack w/Kilo Kia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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