One handed or two handed gate

[jayski]

@Horton "I run do not run" ??? did you pass any literacy courses? you need a Panda for that...

 

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[Horton]

Haaa Crap. @jayski You try to crank out a quick poll while powering down eggs and coffee before work.

[ForrestGump]

@Horton What's in the coffee is my question.

[Horton]

@ShaneH Black, Hot and Strong

[MattP]

@ShaneH Just the way he likes his women.

 

While I don't run 35 yet I ski into. Stupid verbage.

[Skoot1123]

I answered one handed gate - as that is what I have used for the past 6 years, but I am thinking of changing to a two handed gate. Think there might be a little less movement on my turn in using a two handed gate - thereby allowing a better position while crossing the wakes toward 1 ball.

[Marco]

I use a modified 1 handed gate. I go 1 handed but glide a bit before turning in, more like a 2 handed gate. Releasing my left hand on the glide really helps prevent me from rotating my shoulders in at the turn in. It also allows me to start from a slightly wider position.

 

I did give the traditional 1 handed gate a try fror a month last spring, and when it worked it was money, but I just couldn't get consistent with it.

[The_MS]

@Marco I am in the same boat. When I try the traditional 1 handed gate, I find it is high risk, high reward.

[Marco]

@MS So you incorporate a glide as well? When do you start your pullout at -35?

[popof]

I run do trouble not run do not handed grammatical two 35 gates off setup my inconsistent is better technique slalom poll this weird understand is little very.

 

Sorry, I actually meant, two handed, do not run 35 (started running 2@35 only this year), my setup is very inconsistent and this is a weird poll from a grammatical point of view! Had trouble understanding it, but hey, you had guessed it right? :)

[markchilcutt]

I dont run 35 off every set and now use a 2 handed gate RFF skier.

Was using a 1 handed gate and trying to time it like @marcusbrown runs it. This was to technical for me and i was all over the map from pass to pass.

Since switching to a early pull out 2 handed gate things have gotten much easier and i dont feel rushed to get connected and go.

[MattP]

@Horton you should have created an option to include the foot forward. There will be more RFF with a 1 handed than LFF I would assume.

[jedgell]

I've been using a slightly modified one handed gate, just a little bit of a glide, for 4-5 years. I've been trying the 2 hand gate for the past month, doesn't feel natural so probably go back to the one handed.

[The_MS]

@Marco I pull out about when there is 1/2 of a boat length in front of the bow to the green balls. I drop my left butt cheek in a froward outward motion, pin the elbows on the vest and make a nice progressive, steady glide out wide. I try to peak my momentum so the peak speed happens at my projected turn in point towards the gates. Miller got me doing this a few years back after watching my risky quick pull out and back in style I was using. It allows me to set the pace without rushing things. I sometimes struggle to get intensity towards 1 ball at 38/39 but it is usually due to not getting up high enough on the pull out. I will be working on that all spring.

[Marco]

@MS That sounds like exactly my process, including the timing. A few years back I was pulling out with a lot of intensity to try to get high on the boat, but after skiing with Wim, he told me to ease out and I will end up just as high. It is counterintuitive, but it works great and sets a nice easy pace for the pass.

[A_B]

All I know, is that my LFF ski bud was struggling to run 35 off last year, and after finally convincing him to try the two handed gate, he ran 4@38 in the first set using two hands, and has NEVER looked back. His one hand gate was narrow and never did quite hook up with it, and he couldn't believe how much earlier and wider he was with two hands.

 

I think it is much harder for the average Joe to generate angle like the pros do, and as long as Joe's don't sit back on their pulls, the two handed gate is much easier to control and attain angle.

 

Rossi and Brown can grab angle if their ski was on backwards.

 

Like they say, "two hands for beginners".

 

Just my 2c.

[markchilcutt]

@Ab great input about your ski bud going 2 hands! I love to hear success stories like that.

 

BTW pretty sure @chrisrossi is running a 2 handed gate.

[rq0013]

yeah rossi switched late last season I think he said back to a 2 handed gate. Easier for him to stay connected he said.

 

I bet there are very few LFF skiers that use a 1 handed gate.

[Than_Bogan]

I had the impression that 1-handed gate was relatively more prevalent with LFF skiers. New poll? :)

[Chef23]

@MattP Wade Cox told me a couple of years ago that the one handed gate was more beneficial to LFF skiers because it is their bad pull and the 1 hander helps them get into better angle.

 

I am LFF and use a 2 handed gate. My son is also LFF and Wade switched him to a 1 handed gate but it is more of a hybrid. I have thought about switching him back though as I can't really help coach him with the 1 hander as I don't know anything about it.

[ozski]

2 handed gate = another variable. No thanks.

[lpskier]

The follow up questions should be "if you ski a one handed gate, are you LFF?" Etc.

[BRY]

LFF Never could get the timing right for a 1 hander. With a hybrid I never felt like I could really get my hips to the handle completely or soon enough. I have difficulty enough getting timing right on 2 hander. At least with 2 hands I feel connected even if I hose the gate, give myself a chance.

[drewski32]

I see a lot of people try to do a late pullout 1-handed gate and they have no idea what they're doing. They are narrow, late, and rushed and get crappy gates every time. They then try a 2-handed gate and calm down and do it the right way.

For those who can keep a cool head, I'm sure there are benefits.