Baller JackQ Posted November 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 27, 2015 Went to ski and i have no gps, both pucks show as failed. No with the new single puck is not ready yet and old ones are not available I apear to be screwed. Is anyone planning on upgrading to the new single pick in the spring and want to sell me there old pucks? Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbutcher Posted November 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 27, 2015 If you get desperate, ZO still has pucks for sale on its website. So does Miami Ski Nautique, but they are both very high priced ($450+). I wonder if a puck from an old Perfect Pass system would work. There ought to be some of those available. Have you tried unplugging the pucks and plugging them back in? No guarantee, but sometimes that brings them back to life. Or reverse where they are plugged in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted November 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 27, 2015 The stock PP puck wont work. But Perfect Pass can sell you a puck with the correct firmware on it for half the price of a ZO puck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbutcher Posted November 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 27, 2015 @shaneH, that's good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiinxs Posted November 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 27, 2015 Well...... since I will need to buy a new single puck for a backup for my 2016, I could sell you one of my dual puck backups. They are good ones before the serial number cutoff where they were changed. They were both unused until this spring when I had to use them for about a month until they were able to supply some good ones for my 2015. I only had them laying on my dash, so the double stick tape is still unused. PM me if you are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted November 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 27, 2015 Bad when the boat runs but you can't ski because of a speed control problem. Technology is great. Did you forget how to hand drive?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted November 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 28, 2015 Before you blame a spontaneous double failure on the hardware, try a reset. Same thing happened to my boat and I was able to fix it through menu choices. Search this site for the "Darn Russians - or did my GPS just fail" thread for the instructions to fix it. Worth a try. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted November 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 28, 2015 It wasn't a spontaneous double failure. One had failed sometime in the past and gave no indication. To be on the safe side, you should go to the diagnostic screen regularly to see if one has failed. Be proactive and you won't be left with none working. But that assumes that you can get a replacement. That you can still get them from PP in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JackQ Posted November 28, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted November 28, 2015 Thanks All, I did a reset a few times but did not resolve issue. I contacted Skip and have two replacements in route(PP units with firmware for ZO) If i could I would have gone for the new single puck unit, but they dont seem to be ready for prime time yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller buoyboy1 Posted November 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 29, 2015 I had both of mine fail early last summer. I unplugged them and blew out the connections with an air hose and plugged them back in and and they both have been working fine since...at least worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller FLeboeuf Posted November 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 30, 2015 JackQ, it might be too late to tell you this but you should also try unplugging the battery or turning the breaker off for about 5 minutes then replug or turn the breaker back on and start the boat immediately. My sn200 pucks sometimes fail when I leave the boat in the water with the bilge on for a while or simply if I forget to turn the breaker off but after doing this they always come back. Its been doing that since I bought the boat 3 years ago. Ive read on this site somewhere berore that the pucks need a lot of power at startup an for some reason the nautique lacks that bit of power to send to the pucks. I think its because the electrical system drains a bit of energy even when the boat is turned off or something..worth a try whatever boat you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiinxs Posted November 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 30, 2015 Also, as for any ZeroOff issue, I always start by unplugging and re-seating every connector. That has cured some issues in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted December 1, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 1, 2015 Here are the directions that worked for me from the Darn Russians thread: Thanks to baller Greg Chapman who called me and gave me the directions to reset the ZO. I cleared the error message that had both GPSs failed and my ZO acquired and is now working. I ordered a backup puck - I hope it's wasted money and I never need to install it. Here are Greg's directions : Push and hold on/off/menu When the page comes up, use the arrows to highlight and select SCREEN Arrow to DIAGNOSTICS and select Select to clear HISTORY Press on/off/menu twice to exit back to the normal display (note that this worked perfectly the first time but was a bit weird when I was checking just now - lots of random multiple button pushing, mostly on/off/menu, got me back to the normal screen with a working GPS display). Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BRY Posted December 1, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 1, 2015 My ZO worked great for 3 years in Washington State but when I moved to FL it had issues. Resets and battery disconnects worked and eventually the frequency of failure went down. No idea why. Now every 3-4 months both pucks will come up dead. Disconnect battery (nautique has switch), swap puck connectors, turn back on and they come right back up. Very odd but seems like a bug in the system. Guess is changing plugs changes puck addresses which forces the system to reinitialize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller disland Posted December 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2015 Be sure to give it time to initialize. For some reason last summer my GPS started taking a few minutes to synch up. Not sure why, but I let the boat warm up for 3 minutes,then I am good to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted December 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2015 @Bry I had similar issues and battery disconnect always fixed it. No issues at all last couple of years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JackQ Posted December 3, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted December 3, 2015 Thanks all. I tired resetting, switch plugs, disconnecting power for one hour, etc multiple times without success. I was able to get a "Perfect Pass" puck with firmware for ZO, at it resolved my issue. I may get some spares just in case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Drago Posted December 3, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 3, 2015 Ironic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rfa Posted December 4, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2015 i just checked gpscity.com and it looks like they still have the Garmin pucks for $139...see my old post on my replacemnt of a couple of years ago Replaced the two pucks on my '08LXi this summer. Called ZO tech support. He told me the price of new pucks AND without my prompt said I should be able to find them for less money elsewhere. Gave me the part # GArmin GPS18x-5Hz. At that time, the cheapest I found was at www.gpscity.com...$139.95. Installed them and ZO system worked fine immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rfa Posted December 4, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2015 i just checked gpscity.com and it looks like they still have the Garmin pucks for $139...see my old post on my replacemnt of a couple of years ago Replaced the two pucks on my '08LXi this summer. Called ZO tech support. He told me the price of new pucks AND without my prompt said I should be able to find them for less money elsewhere. Gave me the part # GArmin GPS18x-5Hz. At that time, the cheapest I found was at www.gpscity.com...$139.95. Installed them and ZO system worked fine immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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