SDNAH2OSKIER Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Found a decent deal on an 07 Response and wondered if there were any significant, or really any changes to the hull between these years? I think they both the SV23 diamond correct? Wondering if there is any excuse to move up a couple years? Actually for my sister. TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted March 21, 2016 Baller_ Share Posted March 21, 2016 If it is the 07 Response LXi (walk through open bow), then I had thought there was an improvement after 05 or 06. If it is the 07 Response LX (step over open bow), then there was no significant change. The 07 in either boat would still be a good choice. And, I believe the 07 can be converted to Zero Off. Earlier years cannot. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted March 21, 2016 Baller_ Share Posted March 21, 2016 @SDNAH2OSKIER: Are you talking LX or LXI, those two have different hulls. The 03-06 is considered the Gen 1 LXI & the 07 & newer is Gen 2. Gen 1's tend to be considered the crème and do have a better barefoot wake if that is a consideration. If an LX, there is less differentiation in the hulls across that time span but there are subtle wake differences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDNAH2OSKIER Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 LXI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDNAH2OSKIER Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 Its a sweet boat, she already has a pretty sweet 05 LXI, but the newer one has half the hours and if there is hull "improvement" we will take any excuse to bolster a purchase decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodltg2 Posted March 21, 2016 Baller Share Posted March 21, 2016 I think it's roomier than 05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted March 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted March 22, 2016 It's roomier than the '05 for sure, and way less likely to take a roller over the bow. Many think the '07+ LXi was a step back in terms of wake quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDNAH2OSKIER Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 @UWSkier thank you, appreciate the insight. I would like the room and the improved bow performance. She is is on a river and needs neither. She is a diehard slalom skier and wake quality is crucial. Btw just came back from watching sdsu send UW packing from NIT tourney. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller davemac Posted March 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted March 22, 2016 I'm a bit bias...owning an 03 Lxi, but definitely prefer my wake to the 07 Lxi I occasionally ski behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mlange Posted March 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted March 22, 2016 I had a '04 RXLi and now have a TXi. Skipped over the '07 - '11 RLXi. There are two advantages I can see to the '07 - '11 RLXi. As UW Skier stated... there is more room and you don't need to be as careful about dunking the nose when you have people up front. You have to be on your toes with the '03 - '06 RLXi. Secondly, if you use a boom on the '03 - '06 RXLi you need a couple of extensions to get outside of the chine spray. Because the windshield comes back further the boom comes off the side of the further back so you need to get further out to avoid the spray. Aside from that the '04 RXLi was a dream. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted March 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted March 22, 2016 @SDNAH2OSKIER Don't be sorry. THE UW is in the Sweet 16 for the 5th time in 6 years. The second UW stinks at basketball. :smiley: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDNAH2OSKIER Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Haha, I wondered, When I was looking at your emoticon thought is was purple and if it was in fact of Univ. of Wash. or Wisconsin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDNAH2OSKIER Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 So I spoke to the factory rep and he said there were very minor changes in the hull and that statistically they were identical and that only an advanced skier would be likely to notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted March 22, 2016 Baller_ Share Posted March 22, 2016 @SDNAH2OSKIER: I suggest you demo the boat in question before the purchase to make sure in yours/her mind the wakes are what you are looking for and you get the ROI you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDNAH2OSKIER Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 @DW, even with a dry suit that is probably not possible. I believe the boat is sold though. It was a good enough deal and I have enough history with Malibus to buy it without a check ride. But, for me, it was too far to go, deal with logistics to make it work for me and my sister isnt super motivated. It was cheap enough I may have had a nice boat for the summer and made a few bucks. Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeprunc Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Not sure what speeds your sister skis at, but from my research last year I've heard the 07-11 wake at slower speeds and -15' off to be larger than the 03-06 LXI. I think faster and shorter the wake is comparable with less spray. I love my 06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chad_Scott Posted March 25, 2016 Baller Share Posted March 25, 2016 No changes between those hulls. Changes occurred with the introduction of the TXI. LXI was a great boat. Put about 75 pounds in the nose. Will help with tracking and wake characteristics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Peter_B Posted March 28, 2016 Baller Share Posted March 28, 2016 Just to clarify, as others posted, the 03-06 Lxi was one boat, the 07-11 Lxi was a completely new boat, and the 12-up TXi was another large change. (current generation) The 03-06 Lxi was an outgrowth of the Response and Response LX, using the same Diamond hull and just making it wider and longer. Great all-around boat. The '07-11 greatly improved the ride quality in chop, less (almost no) water over the bow, and good shortline ski wake. Long line length ski wake was debatably not as good. '12-up TXi fixed all that, by keeping the good ride and little bow attitude change for a dry ride, and improved the hull to give all skiers a great slalom wake. Noticeable change. Other item paid attention to was the '12-up is very much a driver's boat, with better windshield, dash and driver ergonomics. The '03-'06 LXI was the best longline barefoot table if using for multidiscipline, but the TXi ('12-up) is the best slalom of the line up. On a side note, the Response (closed bow) is still arguably one of the great buoy tractors for course-only use, such as private lakes. pb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDNAH2OSKIER Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 Thanks Peter_B!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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