Baller oldmanskier Posted February 16, 2019 Baller Posted February 16, 2019 I see tons of information on the current Big 3 Slalom rigs as should be. I even love all the Big 3 boats and like the way they all look. If I could afford a new boat every year I would not have an issue with purchasing any of the current Big 3. I have no issues with any of the Big 3 and did not start this post to down any of the Big 3 or compare against the Carbon Pro. I wanted to start this post for those of us that still have Centurion CP's and see what CP owners have to say about their boats. My take on the Centurion CP: I have a 2014 Centurion CP that I purchased in 2016. It was used in Southern Regional's as one of the tow boats. I love my CP. I 65 years old and at this time 2 to 3 years from retirement. Unless I win the lottery (my early retirement plan) or something goes terribly wrong with my CP, this will most likely be the last ski boat I will own. Construction: I think the CP is one of the best thought out and quality Slalom boats there is. I have been all thru my CP including taking some of the floors out (I get bored in the winter) just to see quality of construction. In my opinion the CP is a well-made Slalom boat. Maintenance: Oil changes, impeller changes and fuel filter changes are easy on the PCM 5.7 Excalibur engine. The Transmission fluid filter change was a challenge, due to having to remove rubber exhaust manifold hose from engine to shift over to get to the transmission filter location for removal and install of filter. It has a brass (not plastic) drain plug and I do not have to raise the engine cover to remove or install the drain plug. Just untwist a cover and remove or install. Skiing: The Slalom wake is great for my very arthritic ankle even at 22 off. I love the ballast system for leveling the boat. Simple Zero off system (no Massive $3000 computer screen). Simple key start ignition. Boat tracks well (in my opinion) once you learn not to over steer it. Bimini top is very easy for one person to put on and take off and give maximum sun protection. Great gas mileage. Great drive on trailer with spare tire and very easy to drive boat on trailer. Size and weight of boat and trailer make it easy to tow and fits in a normal size garage. My main ski partner who is now 75, in fantastic shape, one time National 32 mph record holder (not for sure which division) and currently spending 12 weeks in Colorado snow skiing (some guys have it made) has this to say about the CP. He calls it a "Gentlemans" ski boat. Small slalom wakes, boat is not too big or two small, Bimini is large and gives lots of protection from the sun and tracks well. Great for us old guys. My only con with the CP is the ski plate form seems a bit small. I am used to it now but almost fell of the platform a couple of times when I first got the boat.
Baller oldmanskier Posted February 16, 2019 Author Baller Posted February 16, 2019 I hit the Post key too soon. CP owners do you have anything to comment about your boat. Thanks oldmanskierpPleas
Baller Golfguy Posted February 16, 2019 Baller Posted February 16, 2019 Agree, and Agree again regarding all of @oldmanskier 's comments. The Carbon Pro was a result of listening to the ideas and comment on this forum. Which brings me to wonder if the three leading tournament boat manufacturers are paying attention to the serious skiers that frequent this blog. Or maybe we are not the dominant segment purchasing the Tournament style boat? If we are then, I don't remember anyone here saying that we want a bigger, heavier boat that requires a bigger heavier engine and a bigger stronger tow vehicle. The Carbon Pro and SN 196 as an example of the opposite. How big will these boat become in time? They are headed in the wrong direction. Disclamier I am a Pro rep for Mastercraft and still own a 2016 CP.
Baller Cent Posted February 16, 2019 Baller Posted February 16, 2019 Another older skier here. My CP is a 2017 with the 6.0. Wonderful boat. Works well for me, and my wife. Wakes are excellent. Lots of power and relatively fuel efficient. Works ell in the course. I have owned and driven a lot of tournament boats in the last 38 years. I have been involved as an owner with dealerships selling 3 of the top 4 ski boats. They were all good products. I was not involved with Malibu. This CP has been my favorite. I will keep it. I was frankly sorry to see the CP go away after Correct Craft acquired Centurion which had previously acquired Supreme.
Baller Orlando76 Posted February 16, 2019 Baller Posted February 16, 2019 Never driven one but have skied one quite a bit. Excellent pull and if I were to buy what I call a more modern boat it would definitely be a CP.
Baller dvskier Posted February 16, 2019 Baller Posted February 16, 2019 These CPs are great to ski behind. I've never driven one but would absolutely own one.
Baller eleeski Posted February 16, 2019 Baller Posted February 16, 2019 The trick wake is too small. Decent shape and a good table but just too small. It was my tournament boat of choice the year MC changed their hull (the MC had a tiny wake then, there weren't any to train behind and MC was pulling a high stakes tournament I trained for). So I did get quite a few rides behind it and adapted to it. For slalom, I liked the small wake. But I never performed well behind the boat. The pull felt really hard and unforgiving. I normally ski at C3 so maybe I needed a different setting to compensate. Too efficient at delivering horsepower to the water? There's more than just a small wake to making a good slalom pull. I only drove it a couple times but it felt reasonable. Not twitchy and unstable, not heavy and unresponsive. Reasonable. I did like the boat overall and would consider buying one. I'm sure I could figure out ballasting to get an acceptable trick wake and a slalom feel I like. Eric
Administrators Horton Posted February 16, 2019 Administrators Posted February 16, 2019 @eleeski The pull felt really hard and unforgiving. I normally ski at C3 so maybe I needed a different setting to compensate. Too efficient at delivering horsepower to the water? There's more than just a small wake to making a good slalom pull. Connelly ★ Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System ★ Wake Lending Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation
Baller GAJ0004 Posted February 16, 2019 Baller Posted February 16, 2019 I liked it for both slalom and tricks. My tournament personal best in slalom is behind a Carbon Pro, and tricks behind a Prostar. I practice on a 1994 Ski Nautique.
Baller eleeski Posted February 17, 2019 Baller Posted February 17, 2019 So @Horton , all you need for slalom is a small wake??
Administrators Horton Posted February 17, 2019 Administrators Posted February 17, 2019 @eleeski saying the slalom pull is harsh but running the most aggressive setting possible.... having had four different Carbon Pros I can tell you the pull is not radical or harsh in any way at any setting. Connelly ★ Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System ★ Wake Lending Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation
Baller_ lpskier Posted February 17, 2019 Baller_ Posted February 17, 2019 My personal boat is a 200. I skied behind and drove our club CP for three years. It’s an awesome slalom boat, and it’s too bad it’s no longer a new purchase option. Lpskier
Baller eleeski Posted February 17, 2019 Baller Posted February 17, 2019 @Horton At least I collected another caricature award. Pandas, wingnuts and now Office Space, I am the GOAT at collecting these. Note that I did say I needed to try a different setting. Or are you saying that all ZO settings are identical behind all boats? Eric
Baller ozski Posted February 17, 2019 Baller Posted February 17, 2019 And still Nautique is dragging tournament skiers in a direction they really don't need to go in. Kill the affordable option and then deliver a product 3% of the market can afford. Genius.
Baller Golfguy Posted February 17, 2019 Baller Posted February 17, 2019 The CP is a fighting 2800 lbs. and the power to water is very efficient. When I train with it I use a C1 setting. When I go to tournaments and ski behind the bigger heavier boats I ski C2 just to feel near the same consistent pull. To say it is a harsh pull is perhaps not the word I would use. It, to me is a very consistent. The Pro Star pull is very close to the same feel through the wakes. If there is a modern day upgrade to the CP, it is the PS. PS please recall my previous disclaimer. Cheers.
Baller Bongo Posted February 17, 2019 Baller Posted February 17, 2019 I've got an '04 MC 197 and half interest in a '14 Carbon Pro. Different lakes, and don't want to haul them between. Nothing really to add to what @oldmanskier said regarding the Carbon Pro; easy to drive and tracks well, small slalom wake and just enough space to haul everything as a tug boat. As with most inboards, easy for routine maintenance. Trick wake small, but a flat table. Wake trick gets more practice behind the MC 197. I'd like to upgrade my '04 MC 197 to a Zero Off boat rather than Perfect Pass. I'd consider myself to be a bit loyal to MC; previous boat was an '89 MC Prostar. Current hull MC Prostars are too expensive from my value perspective, even for well-used. So I'd prefer another Cabon Pro, but now that they ceased to be made, seems it'll kill their potential resale value. Brendella, Tige or Supra anyone? So I feel a bit stuck. Which very likely means I'll run another year with what I've got... Bongo
Baller oldmanskier Posted February 17, 2019 Author Baller Posted February 17, 2019 Thanks for all the comments. I do not trick or jump so I cannot comment on those behind the CP. As for the Big 3, I like all of them and if I could afford a new boat every year I would be honored to own any of them. But as an old man with bad ankles, still trying to ski as much as possible and have a normal size garage for storing my boat in the winter, the CP is perfect for me. I would love to have a 6.0 engine in my CP just for the adrenaline rush driving the boat. But for slalom the 5.7 in my CP is plenty strong. Good to hear comments on the CP again even if it is no longer being produced. Once again thanks for all the comments. oldmanskier
Baller LeonL Posted February 17, 2019 Baller Posted February 17, 2019 A comment on harsh pull...my regular ski partner has skied for several seasons using B1+ with a 196's and 200's (this was before the newest revision). Another guy bought a CP at our lake my ski pard got a pull behind it and went with his normal B1+. It just whipped him. Could not ski + setting with the CP.
Baller Zman Posted February 17, 2019 Baller Posted February 17, 2019 CP was an awesome boat to slalom behind.
sixball Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 Can't help other then say if I looked for a replacement tug form my boat the firs two boats I would be looking for are the C.P. and CC 196 But at almost 68 I may never need to replace my tug. But then Need is a odd word!
Baller bishop8950 Posted February 19, 2019 Baller Posted February 19, 2019 I own one CP, and have a partial interest in 2 more we have at our club lake. I love these boats and was super bummed when the decision was made to put the program on hold. When it’s time, we will probably put new drivetrains in the 2 at the club lake and keep running them. Nothing against the big three, but we love the CP and would save a ton of money. We run 600hrs a year so even rolling into a promo costs a lot.
Baller skidawg Posted February 19, 2019 Baller Posted February 19, 2019 Most bang for the buck , still have ours with no plans to get rid of it
Baller skimtb Posted February 19, 2019 Baller Posted February 19, 2019 @bishop8950 that’s awesome number of hours. How high do you go before selling or repowering? Just curious.
Baller bishop8950 Posted February 19, 2019 Baller Posted February 19, 2019 @skimtb depends on how they are running. Probably 1,500 or so. 2,000 max. They may run longer but loose power and reliability after that. We change the oil every 50hrs which in the summer is every other weekend!
Baller Tim Vaio Posted February 25, 2019 Baller Posted February 25, 2019 We had 6 Carbon Pro's and our 2016 6.0L was an awesome driving and skiing boat. Hated to see the promo program cancelled and the boat not continued. It was an excellent option and hit a very relevant segment of the market. 1
Baller Golfguy Posted July 17 Baller Posted July 17 2016 CP Question about the passenger side ballist pump location. Where is it? I need to replace the impeller in the pump. Thank you.
Baller Bdecker Posted July 17 Baller Posted July 17 @Golfguy- it’s been a few years, but I remember pulling the driver kick plate and panel. Ours was tucked up against the center divider on the driver’s side. Needs to be done again at 1350ish hours- hoping one of my more flexible boat partners is up for the task this time! 1
Baller lkb Posted July 18 Baller Posted July 18 What @bdecker said. Although I got to mine from the passenger side by going around the divider. Lots of cuss words and sweating involved. It seemed like the driver seat would have to come out otherwise. 1
Baller RAWSki Posted July 18 Baller Posted July 18 Like many things in boats it was much easier to install at the factory !
Baller Golfguy Posted July 18 Baller Posted July 18 Thank you, this is helpful I have tried every imaginable you tube/web search to no avail.
Baller Svfara_1 Posted August 21 Baller Posted August 21 Hey. I just bought a ‘14 carbon pro. So far so good. Just wondering if anyone has a shower installed in their boat? and where is it installed.? It doesn’t seem like it can be hidden anywhere without getting “creative”
Baller RAWSki Posted August 22 Baller Posted August 22 I believe I saw one installed in the rear side pocket.
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