Baller C5Quest Posted June 21, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 21, 2021 In the market for a new video set up. I’ve used the older Hero models. Anyone have experience with the Max? Looks like a cool set up, but would like first hand user experience. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted June 21, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted June 21, 2021 Experiences still welcome but after looking at features and YouTube comparisons the Hero 9 looks the better option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller kmenard Posted June 21, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 21, 2021 What length rope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jhughes Posted June 21, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 21, 2021 GoPro is way too wide angle for filming skiing from the boat IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted June 21, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted June 21, 2021 @kmenard 22-32 off right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted June 21, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted June 21, 2021 Too wide angle? Better options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted June 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2021 Pylon mounted? Hard to beat a standard Google Pixel for image quality. You can get them for about 50 bucks on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted June 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2021 Go look at this thread https://www.ballofspray.com/forum#/discussion/comment/405102 plenty of GoPro video as examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Cnewbert Posted June 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2021 We are very happy with our Hero 9 and Ski Doc set up. The image quality and stabilization is superb and more than adequate for video analysis of technique. But you won’t get highlight reel “footage”. The max digital zoom available is just 2x, and digital zoom by nature results in a loss of resolution. Plus, owing to the physical time lag of the camera rotation on the Ski Doc, 2x is limited to lower level skiers who don’t pull too wide and ski out of frame. 1.4x (max digital zoom for higher resolutions) is pretty good for shorter line lengths and better skiers who get higher on the boat, but at 1.4x you don’t have a very tight image. Again, it’s very useful for instruction, which is the main point for us. You can of course zoom in further during replay, but since that is also a digital enlargement you will lose additional resolution. The package is convenient, compact and easy to use, plus the camera is water proof to some shallow depth I can’t recall at the moment, but it’s certainly not vulnerable to getting incidental water damage in the boat. It’s an invaluable, unmanned, hands-free learning tool, especially if you don’t have a knowledgeable observer in the boat who could shoot with a hand held DSLR and a longer optical zoom lens for the absolute best results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Keith_Menard Posted June 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2021 @C5Quest I think until you get into shortline the angle on the gopro isn't very useful. I tried it at 15 off and it was just so far away, you couldn't do anything. I think @UWSkier has some good advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jhughes Posted June 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2021 Wake eye app on a cell phone has been my go-to for years at this point. You can't beat the auto start/stop at set speeds, it's amazing. Set it and forget it. On an iPhone 10 I can zoom to about 1.5x and and still get great footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingonit Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Any GoPro with GPS works great even at 15 off. Download the the GoPro Labs QR software to enable the speed trigger. Once installed you can teach your camera speeds to start/stop recording just like wakeye. I record at 1080 and can easily see issues that I need to fix. Images are much clearer than anything I've seen on phone cameras. Playback in slow motion using Windows media player to really pick apart your runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted June 22, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted June 22, 2021 I started with Wakeye App but when I went to iPhone X it became useless. Prob just get an older iPhone strictly for wakeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted June 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2021 Get old phone. Use Google photos. Watch in cloud using YouTube player at 1/4 speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Tom351 Posted June 23, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 23, 2021 The Hero9 "GoPro labs" firmware also lets you burn-in the current speed into the video. It displays in M/S but could be useful for skiers that run multiple speeds and might not be sure what speed a given pass was run at. Also, the Hero9 has the removable lens for the "Max lens mod" which makes the viewing angle wider- so it is not useful at all for waterskiing, but now that the camera has a removable lens I assume that before long someone will make an aftermarket mod lens that does the opposite to give you an optical zoom that snaps on easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Keith_Menard Posted June 23, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 23, 2021 @Tom351 I have been waiting since that camera came out for a 'zoom' lens and so far, nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Fastguy888 Posted June 23, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 23, 2021 I just purchased a GoPro Hero 9, will try it out this weekend. I made my own tracker using an old tripod head that follows fantastic using the tripod arm with a wire loop around the rope, but with my Glaxy S20 picks up the vibrations too much in any given setting, I also look forward to horizon leveling for POV chest/head/ski shots. I think in Linear Mode in 4k 60fps the zoom/crop looks pretty decent. Also with the 4k you can edit in 2k or HD and essentially zoom in 2x and still have great looking video. I have a degree in video production and using GoPro's since they came out, should have some great videos out to share soon of me hacking through the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted June 24, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted June 24, 2021 I know this as been discussed in the past but what the best iPhone again for wakeye? I think after the 6 no bueno ? I had an older model that worked great but can’t recall which. Going to check eBay for a 5 or 6 non plus model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller scuppers Posted June 26, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 26, 2021 @workingonit Would you please call me to talk me through the process of GPS control. I downloaded the QR to my I phone but can’t get past that point. 4078765566. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MichaelWiebe Posted October 15, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 15, 2021 @Fastguy888 How did the GoPro 9 work out for you? Did you find an optimal mix of mode, lens, fps, zoom, hypersmooth, etc.? We just upgraded from the Hero 3+ to the 9.Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Fastguy888 Posted October 19, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 19, 2021 @MichaelWiebe I was bummed when the Hero10 came out already, should have waited and done more research; with that said I am super happy with the Hero 9, just knowing a newer version is out ugh... @Horton been posting footage from the Hero 10. From the boat I I like shooting in 4k 60fps so I can get 50% smooth slow motion as a study tool and also crop in / digital zoom in post and still look good. While I am a pro video editor for my job, I still like the GoPro color profile rather than the pro / flat mode to save time. I am posting, more content on my youtube channel "ActionSportsPlaygrounds". While the Max Lens Mod is not required to run the Horizon Lock, I just recently got it to have a wider angle for POV Shots like these (skiing poorly for me this day as I had not slept in 2 days) Here is a from the pylon follow rope angle of a funny crash from yesterday truing to do a back spin in open water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 20, 2021 Administrators Share Posted October 20, 2021 The title of this thread mentions the Max. I don't believe from the boat footage with the Max would be acceptable. It does all kinds of amazing other stuff but not footage from the boat. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deep11 Posted October 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2021 Saw on the other thread about setting gps on new GoPro’s with QR code. Have old GoPro but new max (for kitesurfing and the like). Thought I’d try the QR code thing - works like a dream and will make a real change as can now view each pass right after my set before I go out again. Am on holiday in PortoHeli (Greece) this is a sunset pass from last night with the gogpro max set to: 1060/60fps/ narrow and 53kph start/stop. It’s a 13m (32off) pass raw footage lifted straight to my phone app and then drop box. Using my “travel mount” which is piece of plastic pipe which slides over the pylon :) Looks perfect for what I want. Won’t be going back to old GoPro and no need for a new one. https://www.dropbox.com/s/y16hrc07i2yozge/PortoHeli2021.MP4?dl=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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