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Unfortunately, there is still no Boatmate solution for the trailer. Here is their response as of today, sounds like the decision was to “punt” on this issue:

Nautique still sells the Tournament Loveseat Extension. Your dealer can use your HIN and order the seat with matched upholstery per your build. I just ordered one over the weekend.

As a different approach, has anyone tried the 3 blade version of the 654? That would be the acme 470. Same diameter, pitch, and cup. May be marginally faster too?

Hello,

I’m looking for a Ski Nautique 200 factory tower. Preferably black in color. Anyone have one they are looking to part ways with?

Willing to drive for pickup.

Thanks!

If self tracking/autonomous steering boats were approved in the next few years in the AWSA Towboat Certifications - why would we continue to need boat guides?

Perhaps this technology pairs well. Many will miss the trick wake, but a heck of a nice table for toes.

@Andre - agreed that the nautique hydrogate in slalom mode makes a really small wake, not good for tricking or other recreational wake skiing.

I guess I just would have anticipated a similar solution from the new Prostar, or at a minimum the integrated ballast option that seemed to appear in 2020 and now isn’t being mentioned for 2021. You can’t tell me th ballast tank is a big cost adder; especially if they are sourcing the parts for the passenger balance tank already. BOS members have tapped into that for their own weight systems. Why not make the ballast tank an “option” in order to not impact the base price we all like so much?

Don’t get me wrong the new Prostar is a phenomenal package - but we are missing the 3rd event here which has been a known hull shortcoming for 6 years. In those years, we kept hearing “mastercraft is working on a solution”. Has that performance requirement has been abandoned?

Wasn’t the trick tank an option on the 2020s?

Do we know why it isn’t on the 2021 configuration options list?

From the 2020 awsa tow boat evaluation:

MasterCraft Ballast/ Weight System – Tricks Only

TheMasterCraftProStarwastestedandapprovedforuseintheTrickeventwiththeuseofanadditionalballast/weightsystemas configuredbyMasterCraft. The ProStar can be used for tricks both:

1) with the ballast / weight system;

and 2) without the system.

IF the boat is used with the ballast/weight system, it must be configured as it was tested and approved. Specifically, the MasterCraft ballast / fat sack must be installed in the bilge; under the floor compartment which is under the middle seat. The sack must be completely full when used for tricks (no partial fill). In addition, 75-pound weights as configured by MasterCraft must be installed in each of the rear compartment trays (150 lbs. total). Storage compartment trays are located under the access doors at the stern.

The ProStar is not approved with any other configuration, in other words, a user cannot simply put a ballast / fat sack or weights on the boat floor.

Looks like Correct Craft has the hydrogate exclusively until November of 2025:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US7246565B2/en

Trick solution aside, this new cost reduced Prostar hits a ton of the targets, and caters to the mass slalom market really well.

@elr -There was a lot of speculation that this new boat would get a “trick tank,” such that manual weights wouldn’t have to be put in the trunks or in the walk through in order to give the wake decent lip/curl. It doesn’t look like that happened based on the presented information.

I do see the MTS ballast in the spec sheet but I think that is the passenger side ballast for skiing without a spotter.

Here is the thread with the service bulletin embedded from PCM regarding the change from 15W-40 to 5W-30. Apparently it’s mainly due oil pump failures:

https://www.ballofspray.com/forum#/discussion/22487/pcm-6-0-oil/p1

What percentage of your hours are at idle? That is where fuel dilution comes from in the ski boat application with GM low tension piston rings, and it’s not so good for oil lubricity or viscosity. According to indmar, it’s a reason to change it earlier than 50 hours if you are a hardcore 3 event / private lake slalomer (stops after every pass, all the time).

Link to Indmar service bulletin:

https://teamtalk.mastercraft.com//attachment.php?attachmentid=148771&d=1470931299

https://www.chevrolet.com/performance/crate-engines/lsx-454

Illmor 6.0: 373 hp

PCM 6.0: 409 hp

Why did they design a brand new motor that is 36 hp less than the direct competitor? Thats almost 10% less.

Your wet sanding and rubbing compound/polish appears to be extremely successful- great job! Did you have experience doing this before?

Also, how did you blend the area you polished with existing gel coat? It would seem doing the whole gel coat might be needed for consistency?

I’ve got the same boat with similar oxidation on the transom.

I also want to do the domed decal upgrade from domed numbers in the future as well, including the side “Malibu” with the background sun logo. They quoted me a lofty price for those but I think it would really pop.

I just experienced this slow lock issue last week. Thought it was a fluke, but noted the lock took 30 seconds plus after each key off to switch skiers. It really confused the stargazer system - had issues holding speed even once it did lock sometimes.

I’ll have to send in the puck. Thanks for sharing the success story.

How much speed do you want/need with 1 footer in tow? And does the barefoot wake/table matter to you?

I could see the new 2020 Ford 7.3L gasoline pushrod V8 (code name “Godzilla”) being a more suitable candidate or next in line for marinization. Totally different architecture than these dowsized turbos, but fit for the HD market as the article explained, capitalizing on big torque at low RPM. Isn’t that what we want?

Illmore already did it with the MV8 7.4L (524 ft-lbs, 522 hp). I’ve heard tournament wakeboat drivers state that the 7.4L NA used significantly less fuel than the Rouscharged Raptors or XS550.

Heavy duty truck market needs = modern Ski / wake boat needs?

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/a26306469/ford-super-duty-73-v8-engine-details-specs/

Tuned to 350 ft-lbs and 310 hp.

Might be nice for a Bayliner or something.

I may have recommeneded the 2.7L or 3.5L, but I don’t know if this new Indmar motor is for ski/wake.

https://www.indmar.com/ecoboost/

Going on year 21 of that hull. Legend.

I think the Ski Sanger still wins the award for longest running hull though.

Any update on the “Nautique Club 200?”

I am sure show ski teams that run new Correct Crafts each year (I.e. Janesville) would greatly prefer this route. The question would be, what percentage of CC sales is that really making up, and how much marketing / new boat sales come out of it.

It was interesting that a new 2019 Ski Nautique was at WI show ski state this year. Same questions above apply.

Right off their website. I guess they are running late.

With the upper deck change from 98 to 99, the windshield design changed a fair amount. Didn't really compare their resting point because of that.

With the ACME 515, I'll turn 5230 at 47.0 with my 99. His boat will spin the same prop ~5100 and get 48.2 mph. To me this RPM difference indicates different hull drag between them. Both motors are making good power at those RPM ranges, and with the same prop the "thrust" output is pretty close.