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32 minutes ago, dvskier said:

Absolutely Travers is in spec at all times. Note that if Nate had taken a pass at 9.75 on Saturday he would’ve been familiar with this situation.

It’s not about “they all know it’s there” or “being familiar”.  For the two months that we had our jump in that location and had a hand full of “that was close situations”.  We asked our selves… is it safe? Could it interfere with the path of a skier pushing the limits with the slalom course.  The answer for us was not safe and we should move it

3 minutes ago, addkerr said:

All skiers bar one pass seem to manage just fine with it, and even then the skier after managed to negate it just fine. Iv skied plenty of places where the shore is well within running up if I pulled long to get a half., doesn’t mean that it should be skied. It was same for all skiers and we had one of the best tournaments ever. Stop moaning and enjoy the amazing spectator position we are now in with TWBC. 

As for me.  I’m am certainly not moaning.  I’m only speaking from experience. Here at our lake (Stillwaters in WI).  We placed our jump in this location when the ice broke a few years back,  where the left jump boat guides line up with the right hand slalom boat guides. We did this  when we moved our jump to the south for the first Pro tournament later in the summer that we were hosting.  After a couple of months and a handful of real close calls, we decided to move the jump boat path to the other side of the slalom boat guide which would put the jump further away from the slalom course.  This is the way it’s been at the north end for years and don’t recall any close call issues in 20 plus years. 

19 minutes ago, Mastercrafter said:

 Jump is almost perpendicular to the boat guides he had to get through.  I’d guess by the time he was about to hit the jump it was too late to score 1, but my time at 9.75 is limited 😂 Scary situation regardless.  

 

I’m not so sure about that.  By the time Nate was finishing his S-turn he had already bled off a lot of his speed and looked like he still had time to complete the one because of that.

2 hours ago, BraceMaker said:

it's in the way but it's basically where a backwards course turn ball would be so if you are close to hitting the ramp you're so far down.

the reference is in the TC handbook but when installed as an integrated course the jump course shares a few bouys with the slalom course and that dictates where the ramp sits so it would be in the same place on lake 1 at bennetts as well.

this is also what caught out Jim Michaels in bouygate as the two courses were surveyed into each other in line but when one moves compared to another line of bouys....

This jump was not in the same position as where it was for the Malibu Open at Michaels. At Michaels it was further away from the slalom course to where the jump boat lane guides lined up with the slalom balls. I believe at Travers the boat lane runs up on the opposite side of the slalom boat guides which would place the jump away inside the buoy line.  Maybe someone here can comment if I’m correct on the Travers jump location.

11 hours ago, Fbris said:

Definitely some great skiing by both the men and women. How do you ski half a buoy at 43 and not win? When Freddie Winter is still on the dock. 
 

I enjoyed watching the amateurs too. The young girl that skied so well in her first event. Forgot her name. How about those old guys over 75? Great to see their performances. My hat is off to them. 
 

 

It would have been even more exciting if the jump was not in play with the slalom course and we could have seen if Nate could have completed his S-turn in time to force a runoff.  Definitely a dangerous situation. 

200 41off’s! …..   Not to mention the the countless times he’s run it in practice…..  More than AMAZING!!! 
It would be interesting to see how the rest of the field compares.

I have a few friends still enjoying the sport and skiing with a Goode Power Vest that have destroyed shoulders.

Nate Smith…… WOW!  Runs 39 in very challenging conditions.

Nate- 0@41

Asher- 0@39

TGas- 5@38

Sedlmajer- 4@38

Sasha - 3@38

Mechler - 1.5@35

It kills me how folks in this thread are chiming in about the outcome of Freddy’s situation with what should have been done, was it fair or was it not fair etc. etc. ….when there has been no clear information or public statement from either party as to what actually occurred on or off camera.  Once that information is out then I think it’s fair for people to have at it on this forum.

Looks like a nice site going up.  Curious, how long is the lake going to be end end? Also, wondering what the short lines are graded at??

@KelvinThe announcers during one of the broadcasts once said that there were “50k watching online”……. 🤣🤣🤣

I’m all about having the boat up to speed and settled in well before the boat hits the greens.  For me, it all depends on the length of the lake whether or not to include turn around islands.  For example: I wish we had them here in Oconomowoc, WI at Stillwaters in contrast to lake I used to ski at in Oregon, WI where they were not needed at all since the lake was 2600’ long.

Jeff Nate

@Gloersen is correct!! I was about to post the same picture or a slowed down video of your front plate separating and then slapping back down. If you turn up the volume you can hear this slapping or clicking noise as well. I’ve experienced this before when during my set I kept hearing a click click noise going through the wake. I skied a few passes hearing this noise then let go after hearing it again heading from one to two. I reviewed the end course video we keep running all summer. I saw this same image of the front plate separating and slapping back down. I still use this set up and keep a close Eye on things and also have added a few short strips of either 250 or 400 in the front center. This is certainly NOT a recommendation. It’s just what I have done.

* picture from my end course video…