Handle size and tennis elbow

[jedgell]

have some issues with tennis elbow/tendinitis. Currently using a standard dia radius handle. Has anyone had positive experience using a larger dia handle to help relieve the tendinitis?

[Horton]

Couple of things that help me:

 

Bent handle (call Brenda at InTow http://www.jlbmfg.com/)

Two palms down for deep water start

Drug called Mobic (see your doctor)

Stretch - Jones can you post images or a link

[Chef23]

The bigger handle bothered my elbow. I went to a 1.0 handle and clinchers and I don't have any issues.

[Horton]

yea I am do better with 1.0

 

If I was not on a keyboard 12 hrs a day I would be healthy.... ( and my wife would see me)

[jedgell]

I already have the bent handle, just started doing stretches and exercises. Our season won't really get going for a couple more weeks, guess we'll see how the arms hold up.

[Old MS Accout]

Get a ball smaller than a tennis ball like a hand ball and squeeze it ten minutes a day. Stay away from slack. Deep tissue massage helps but it hurts when you do it. You do not get a lot of blood flowing through that area so anything you can do to increase circulation in the elbow will help.

[ktm300]

Use and rotate through the season different size handles. It helps to spread the stress around.

 

[Wish]

Clinchers/Masterline Pro Locks.

[MrJones]

Try to warm it up as much as possible before you ski. Multiple 10 second stretches, massage, squeezing a ball for a minute or two. It's not fixing it, but is trying to warm up the area to decrease you pain. Stretching and ice after.

 

I never had issues until I rode a Prophecy for a while a couple of years ago. It killed my elbow. Different skis just load differently and I swear it makes a difference. The A1 was murder on my back. The Z7, which felt slowish, was no problem. I haven't noticed a big difference with handle size/radius, but it does need to feel tacky to you. The harder you squeeze the worse it is so find a good handle and glove combo and relax that grip.

 

To be honest, I think time and a change of skis is what is helping mine slooowly get better... At least till I have another scrappy set like the one at Scoke's last weekend then I still feel it a bit. Good luck.

[Old MS Accout]

I agree with Scot. When I changed skis in 09, my problems went away. I needed Tommy John surg after riding that ski I was on.

[skidawg]

MS, u kno that tommy johns surgery was from to much time alone :-(

[Old MS Accout]

That is my other elbow

[Horton]

In waiting room at orthopaedic office now ....

[jedgell]

That can't be good. We need you healthy so you can give us the 2011 Ski Test.

[Bud Man]

@Horton, What did the doctor say yesterday?

[skidawg]

Dr. said JTH needs a lobodomy (sp?)

[Old MS Accout]

He was referred to a shrink

[Nick Sullivan]

Had forearm problems all last year. This year I went down several handle diameter sizes. My forearm problem is gone but now I am getting tennis elbow. When I go to the lake next I'll look at what handle sizes I am on.

[Horton]

Told Dr I needed more drugs.... all is well

[Dirt]

The ski test must go on. I will ride them until I find the best one. I will send the rest to Ward who will write the reviews and keep them. MS will assist Horton with his rehab by randomly adjusting his fin.

[Old MS Accout]

I would rather be involved in step one with you Dave but will gladly take part in Hortons fin adjustment also.

[Horton]

You r all banned

[jackski]

When out of "natural" choices, I found that "Voltaren" an over the counter anti inflamitory worked great for me.

[DW]

Elliptical radius handle. I pretty much have to bend the radius part myself. It helped tendonitis.

[Horton]

But do you have any skin left on your hand? With warn water Elliptical radius seems like a blood donation.

[AggieSkier]

Is anyone using the Flex Bar exercise for skier's elbow?

[6balls]

Elliptical handle, clinchers or pro-locks, tennis elbow strap...and if all else fails steroid injection. I had a doc buddy inject me. No problems since injection after struggling 1.5 years thru two ski seasons and one winter lifting season. Tends to be recurrent...still running clinchers.

 

[Horton]

Kind of phallic. That video is a little dirty. Better than this I guess

 

[Horton]

This is the stuff that keeps me skiing

/vanilla2/uploads/FileUpload/6/726.png

[AggieSkier]

Meloxicam = Mobic

 

Persons who have more than 3 alcoholic beverages per day may be at increased risk of developing stomach ulcers when taking meloxicam or other NSAIDs.

 

Guess I could take it on Sunday..

[6balls]

Your risk of ulcer goes up w/or w/out the etoh if taking regular NSAIDS. If worried about it, you could consider taking it w/prilosec OTC. Not much reason to spend for mobic...OTC naproxen will do the same and far cheaper...I go through a pile of it each ski season to allow my back to continue.

[skiinxs]

PRP (Platelet Rich Plasma) therapy has made an approx. 95% improvement in my right elbow this winter, surgery fixed my left elbow (PRP wasn't an option because a huge bone spur had severed 80% of my triceps)

Dave

[Horton]

Everyone is differnt. I can take Advil like candy and no effect. I was totally surprised when the Mobic worked so well.

[6balls]

Horton, you should get some drug co's advertising on BOS...particularly the pain killing/anti-inflammatory set. Sport supplements, glucosamine/chondroitin etc. Perhaps a few beer or liquor companies. Very captive audience for that stuff!

[sunvalleylaw]

Bump. Any updates on bent/radius handles for elbow issues? Was thinking I would order the one Horton referenced above. In the 1". Narrow is better for me. Also, my wife (and chiropractor) gave me one of those red bendy things to use.

[WaterSkier12]

How'd u get insurance approval for PRP?

Almost impossible here....

[ozski]

Switching my grip around means I can ski pain free. Its funky for a few sets but way better than not skiing, Its worth a try when everything else fails.

[ScottScott]

I started having more issues when i started using palm protectors. Going to swing by master line and try a smaller diameter handle to see if that helps.

[wtrskior]

@ScottScott some say larger diameter is better.

[ScottScott]

For some maybe, the larger diameter result after adding the palm protectors certainly works my forearms a lot more.....

[wtrskior]

How large were you using? Shouldn't need palm protectors with a large Dia. They are also a cure for many ripped hands.

[lpskier]

I have found that a different handle diameter helps. I ski with a 1" handle. If my elbow hurts I'll try a larger handle, but I think if I usually skied with a 1.092 that going to a 1 would also help. I think that it's not necessarily the diameter, it's the change and the change in the way your elbow takes the strain due to the changed grip tension. Also, I think you squeeze your grip less with a wider diameter handle, but @horton will disagree with me on that one all day.

[Horton]

@lpskier my experience is that a bigger diameter handle will use more forearm strength and a smaller handle will tear up you hands. Thicker or thinner gloves have the same effect.

[ScottScott]

I agree with @Horton. I had been using a 1.03 and felt good, but started tearing up my hands in the summer. The palm guards helped with my hands but essentially made the handle diameter larger, requiring more forearm. Working toward strengthening my forearm, but maybe trying a smaller diameter handle (at least while using the palm guards.) Of course handle diameter is also relative to hand size, and my hands aren't particularly large.

[parkerc2112]

I change handle diameter every other set. I have also started alternating hands for Iphone use and scrolling. My pain is gone.

[wtrskior]

@ScottScott 1.03 is standard size, not large dia at all.

 

Chet Raley suggests people use the largest handle possible if you're having issues, which is 1.183 from Masterline. There are 4 sizes larger than the 1.03....

 

 

[ScottScott]

After adding palm protectors, the end result on a 1.03 is larger than it was.

 

Which issue ? Tearing up the hands, tennis elbo, or fatigued forearms? Handle diameter relative to blisters is opposite of forearm fatigu. I can see how alternating would help with tennis elbo. I get tennis elbo a little, but some weight training (that has been discussed before) helps me with that. I have trouble holding on too many passes with the palm protector (which would be the same as a larger diameter handle.)

 

Keep in mind that the effects on blisters is a lot different for someone skiing through the summer in Fl as opposed to Canada. And, what is "standard" is relative to the size of your hands.

[skihacker]

I rotate back and forth from a straight handle to bent, i've been using masterline's largest diameter for years, seems to work well for me.

[Waternut]

I've said it before in some other post. I used to have major elbow issues. Ultimately getting rid of really old ropes and switching back and forth between radius and straight handles helped a lot. Whether it was this alone or combined with a conscious effort to keep my arms straight whenever possible virtually eliminated my elbow problems last year. My elbow problems still exist because I feel it on a mountain bike but waterskiing no longer causes me any elbow pain.