Baller Waternut Posted August 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 Looking to see what others use and if they like their liners. I currently have the thick silver Reflex liner with my boot and am not a big fan of it. The insole bunches up constantly so I took it out and now my foot is on a slick rubbery surface which might be worse. The tongue of the liner is insanely thick and gets in the way...maybe it's supposed to be like that but it seems ridiculous. Lastly, putting the liner in the boot without my foot in it is a nightmare. The sides of the liner snag on the shell and refuse to go in/come out without some fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KcSwerver Posted August 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 I use the FM intuition liners, mold them, and they are great. Most comfortable thing iv put my foot in coupled with my reflex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bishop8950 Posted August 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 I agree the reflex liners are weak and the intuition liners rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveY Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I also use an Intuition Aqua Liner with my Reflex boot. It is the most comfortable binding I have ever used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted August 23, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 Any comments on the FM/intuition liners with the tongue vs the wrap around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted August 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 Where do you buy the Intuition liners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KcSwerver Posted August 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 Wraparound is my favorite. Gives a little more padding between buckles and my ankle. Order from fluid motion website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rockdog Posted August 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 Intuitions would want to be amazing for what they cost, more than double reflex. What other options are there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KcSwerver Posted August 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 They are amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rockdog Posted August 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 @kcswerver which ones are they specifically? I had been referring to intuition aqua's which are around $170 each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted August 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 @rockdog the Reflex liners are $68 and you can buy the Intuition through Fluid Motion for $65-75. Pricing is similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted August 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 @Chef23 you can buy them direct. Nobody around here stocks their snow ski liners, so I just order them right from the source. Although if they are getting the intuition liners for $65 somewhere then that is $111 under list https://intuitionliners.com/the-liners/aqua/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted August 23, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 Yeah I've wondered that myself because the FM splash liners look like the Intuition aqua liners and have Intuition written on the tongue but are somehow $100 less than the other sources I've seen. Maybe bulk buying saves significantly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted August 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 @Waternut - could be a version made just for FM, although its interesting that they can sell them as just a bare liner for a price that low. Intuition does the same sort of thing with Scarpa and a few other downhill boot mfg - a private label liner that is some version of the available liners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted August 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 I like the thin reflex liner!! thick liners are not for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted August 23, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 @oldjeep Very possible. I just notice FM and Intuition are both in BC, Canada so maybe they cut a deal for one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted August 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 Intuition Splash tongue liners. These are the same ones that are stock from Goode now. Those silver reflex liners are the worst. They must weigh a pound or more when wet with all the water they absorb. I would make it a judgement call. If your foot fits pretty tight in the boot I might just use the black tongue liner from reflex. If you need more fill the intuition will give you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KcSwerver Posted August 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 Mine are the "fm tour pro" and it is like 65/ boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted August 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 @oldjeep that is price per liner and it is less than the price you quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted August 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2013 OK - intuition must be selling a pair for $176 (since there is no right/left choice), so the FM's compare at $130. Still a pretty good discount over direct. The snow ski stuff sells for about the same price direct or through a reseller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rockdog Posted August 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2013 May be for a pair or may not be, given plenty of folks only need one if using RTP. Still confusing price differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted August 24, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted August 24, 2013 I went ahead and ordered the FM tour-pro liner. We'll see how it is and how long it takes to get here. The wait begins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KcSwerver Posted August 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2013 I'm in kansas and from FM it took a max of four days. They take a few times out in the water before they break in. But I love mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member wski1831 Posted August 24, 2013 Supporting Member Share Posted August 24, 2013 I've had the FM universal liners for years through three different binding set ups. Work good and durable. A friend of mine went to the Goode liners with the tongue similar to FM Splash tongue liner and felt he could bend his ankle forward better. The liners can also be stretched when molded to be a little thinner. When I bought mine I called FM direct and they were very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted August 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2013 Goode Intuition liners. I was part of their R&D, to they must be the best. :-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dstone124 Posted October 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 5, 2013 Has anyone placed an insole in the thin reflex liner for more arch support and comfort? I've got a big foot and I'm worried if I change out to an intuition liner it may not fit in the shell? The thin liner doesn't bother me but with no support under my arch my foot begins to cramp mid set. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted October 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 5, 2013 I just got a new reflex black/white liner and it's so much better than the old reflex liner that I had. Much thicker, with achilles pads built in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KcSwerver Posted October 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 5, 2013 @Shane are you talking their thick liner or a thin one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted October 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 5, 2013 Got no idea. It's a black/white liner with laces over the tongue. A good bit more volume than the old black/white liner that had no laces or strap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted October 5, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted October 5, 2013 I've been on the FM tour pro liner for a few weeks now. First time I used it, I hated it! Couldn't ride it, it squashed my big toe, and didn't allow enough ankle flex. I remolded the liner taking these things into consideration. I put a folded paper towel on my big toe, used thicker socks, stretched, the liner extra, and let it cool with my ankle flexed fully forward. Now it's a very comfortable liner and I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BRY Posted October 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 5, 2013 I'm with @Deanoski, "I like the thin reflex liner!! thick liners are not for me!" I have the old, thin yellow and black that came flat and had to be molded. Way thinner than the Intuition liners (just went back to Reflex from PS 5's). Don't think I could get the Intuition liners and my foot into the shell either, shell as is has a very close fit. @Waternut Go to the thin Reflex liner (lower volume liner), put in some thin SuperFeet footbeds. Cook the liner, put the SuperFeet in and mold to your foot (buckle loosely). You will have the closest fit and great support for your arch. All the Intuition's I have seen are flat on the bottom (even my molded ones), won't help your arch issue at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted October 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 5, 2013 The price of Aqua Intuition liners is kind of immaterial. Granted, Stradas may be easier on liners than buckle boots, but I have somewhere around 900 sets on mine, and they'll be good for at least another two seasons. I love these liners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller davemac Posted October 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 5, 2013 My Reflex arrived a couple days ago, and took my first ride on it today. Like @ShaneH I got the black/white liner w/ a little bungee tie on the front. The Reflex website identifies it as the "thin liner". I love that there is an achilles pad built into them. I have a wide forefoot, but bony ankle. The achilles pad adds support and helps secure the heel. I had the same thing added to the liners of my snow ski boots, so was glad to see it standard in the Reflex. Like @dstone124 I am also interested to hear what others may be using for footbed/insoles...and whether they are inside or under the liner. I have a high arch and need some support. Today, I threw the insole that comes w/ Strada boot inside the reflex liner. It seemed to work okay. The aftermarket one I was using in my Strada is too thick for the Reflex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller davemac Posted October 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 5, 2013 this is the liner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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