Baller KcSwerver Posted August 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2013 Just got my a3 yesterday, it looks AWESOME When I was setting it up, I put my reflex at 29.5" from tail, wich put it at the very furthest back the screws and holes would allow. When I showed my dad the ski, he got all up in a huff saying that the ski would ski too aggressive the way I set it up, and that I wouldn't have any where to move back in order to make the ski more aggressive (apparently when he was skiing in the 80's and 90's he said people would start in the middle hole and move back to be more aggressive) I understand that his logic is fairly dated but he is really convinced (and won't listen to me at all) and that the middle of the holes doesn't necessarily mean stock, ALWAYS MEASURE. My question is, since he is so sure that the middle of the hole is where I should start, how would be a good way to approach him to rationalize the fact that that isn't necessarily correct. It got to the point where he said he wouldn't pull me with the ski set up where it is. (With the binding all the way back in hole spots, yet still in stock 29.5" Thanks in advance! -Hoping to even get to ski, Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted August 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2013 Show him this thread. The middle hole means nothing. My reflex at stock numbers for my ski is all the way forward that's just the way it is. Oh and it's your ski set it up how you want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KcSwerver Posted August 25, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted August 25, 2013 @mattp I have tried, and I'm almost laughing at how easy it is to understand that this sport is full of super precise things (binding, fin, ski shape, technique and body position) all adding up to be the product "slalom" and that a general hole on a binding plate is no where near precise enough for our sports standard. I'm actually going on a pretty good rage here because I'm quite angry about simple this situation should be, and how complicated it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Cam Posted August 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2013 You could mention to him that a dedicated HO binding would probably be at stock settings in the centre holes, but as a Reflex plate is made for use on most manufacturer's skis stock settings will be different through the manufacturing range, that is why there are so many holes in the plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2013 You can move the horseshoe and release on the plate back a hole, which will allow the plate to move forward. So where that plate sits in relation to the inserts is easily changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted August 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2013 I'm with @cam or just ignore his advice this time and ski. Just make sure if you have to move the boot forward that you do it in secret. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller TWB Posted August 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2013 If you have an H.O. binding, set it next to the Reflex when it's mounted. The HO will line-up with the middle hole at 29.5. I'm using an Attack with and A3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KcSwerver Posted August 25, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted August 25, 2013 Shane you are a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted August 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2013 Woa @kcswerver don't go that far now. If you move your hardware make sure to get the spacing right. I liked my idea better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KcSwerver Posted August 25, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted August 25, 2013 For the current situation I met him halfway it's sitting at almost 30" from the comment Horton made about how touchy the ski is to binding placement, I just really want to put it where it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwr Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 @KcSwerver I've skied with my bindings at 30 and the ski actually feels great, but when I had the bindings that far forward I couldn't get any width on the boat. Skied really good at 28 and 32, but was a problem at 35 and 38. Moved the binder back, and now 35 is pretty easy. I would show your dad the HO website with the stock settings, and show him that your are at stock settings for that ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KcSwerver Posted August 25, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted August 25, 2013 Does anyone know, if the length of stock fin for HO is Jaws or tips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2013 Tips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted August 26, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2013 @kcswerver - well how did it run? Sounds like you made a comprimise - with the right settings. I set mine up at the same settings that @mrJones suggested on the 2013 A3 Fin settings thread. Hope you get to ski it soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller teammalibu Posted August 26, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2013 @kcswerver Shane=Genius and also Speiling Bee Champian!! Hows the fin clamp werkin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KcSwerver Posted August 26, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted August 26, 2013 In super impressed that you got the fin clamp to work. I skied on the 9900 a few days back and it works like a charm. Funny thing is, when goode sent the ski back to me they put a new fin clamp on. So now I have 3! If anyone out there needs a new, never used goode fin clamp I'd sell it to you. Just shoot me a pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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