CC buys PCM

[behindpropellers]

Just heard CC bought PCM engines.

 

I give it 12-24 months till we see another drastic price increase.

[chris_logan]

So does this mean that CC can now indirectly control costs at Malibu?

[chris_logan]

Here's a link to when @Jody_Seal broke the news earlier today, and to tie the two threads together: ballofspray.com/forum#/discussion/11990/interesting

[vtjc]

CC Press Release: http://www.nautique.com/Press/index/correct-craft-acquires-two-engine-companies-pcm-marine-engines-and-crusader-engines

[GAJ0004]

@behindpropellers, Looks like we will both be hanging on to our boats for a while. Thanks again for the pull this summer!!!

[RAWSki]

Wonder if any of the other boat makers using PCM will consider other engines because of this?

[oldjeep]

@Rawski There are really only 2 towboat mfg that I know of. Malibu uses crusader in the 2015 Response and all 2015 Axis boats, and Supreme uses them too.

 

I'm curious to see if Malibu was already planning on only using the PCM/Crusader short term in the Response until they figured out how to jam the Indmar Raptor engine in there or if PCM/Crusader was the long term solution.

[eurosport]

@oldjeep Im pretty sure Centurion is using PCM as well...@Horton?

[E_T]

Inmar and ilmor are both motor suppliers as well

[eleeski]

V6's or 4's?

[oldjeep]

@eurosport‌ guess so, I was just looking at the Guardian page where they had Malibu/axis/supreme listed. Looks like PCM supplies a few international folks too.

http://www.pcmengines.com/partners/

[E_T]

@eleeski‌ 8's!!!! Big gas drinkin hp pounding torque monsters

[RAWSki]

Centurion switched to PCMs a few years ago and looks like they are going to stick with them for the foreseeable future.

http://www.centurionboats.com/news/pcm-marine-engines-centurion.html

 

[Horton]

I am willing to bet a case of beer that there will not be an earthquake in the PCM customer base.

[ForrestGump]

This sort of thing happens all the time in business. Competing companies sell to each other all the time. In the case of CC, it's not about lowering their costs or raising their prices to their competitors. It's about driving more revenue, increasing corporate profits and controlling their own supply chain. They won't sell the engines to themselves any cheaper. But that profit will now find it's way to their corporate Net profit numbers. And now they make profit on every boat their customers like Centurion build and sell. If you look at the big picture, it makes business sense.

[McGruder]

Purchasing PCM by CC is a brilliant move on CC's part. Good business. What ShaneH said above. Right on point. Horton is right, too. Not even a tremor in the PCM customer base. Good to see this for a lot of reasons.

[auskier]

If it gives CC greater control to develop things more then it could be great for the sport. Imagine developments like more integration with ZO for things like fuel management. The boat goes out the gates, and the driver disengages, ZO/ECU closes down 2 cylinders until the beeper goes for the next pass or the boat goes back into gear... start stop technology... better interior ergonomics by altering motor hardware positioning... better torque curves and engine mapping for specific props, hulls etc etc. Someone with a lot more knowledge of engine technology could come up with a lot more reasons than me.

[eleeski]

@auskier‌ Good line of thought. Of course, a smaller lighter cleaner hull would do more for fuel economy...

[oldjeep]

Adding a complicated MDS type system to a boat engine wouldn't be anything I would be in favor of. Just more stuff to break, and at least in my V8 truck doesn't make enough of a difference in fuel economy to be worth the complexity.

[Horton]

@eleeski‌ hello my name is @Horton. I do not think we have met. Your above post is lucid and logical. You should visit this website more often

[oldjeep]

Sounds like @eleeski wants one of these:

Weight: 1950 lbs.

http://www.gekkosports.com/#!gts-20/c1n7q

 

Definitely a little boat that it looks like you sit on top of, not in. Never gotten to ski behind one, but I've gotten to see some pretty good skiers ski behind one.