Baller_ Wish Posted October 28, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted October 28, 2015 Calling all gear heads. So will most likely be putting my boat in the yard for the next several months. May be able to run it but not often if at all. I'm good with all that is exterior as to protecting it from the elements. It's the GT-40 motor not running for that long that worries me greatly. . Maybe a fuel additive?. Possibly running Ethon free gas through it for a while over several sets? Ideas..thoughts.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted October 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2015 My folks leave 2 cars down there for 6 months and don't do anything special to them. As long as you can keep all the critters out and have a really well vented cover then I sure wouldn't worry. If condensation is a concern then park it full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BRY Posted October 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2015 Put regular red Stabil in with your last tank before storage. Run the engine enough to get it all through the system (taking a set is perfect). Have the tank pretty much full. Ethanol free gas not necessary but wouldn't hurt. Change the oil when you pull it, keeps all the crap in it from settling into sludge while it sits. An engine fogger (Stabil makes one too) probably a good idea as well, actually pretty easy to do. You don't have to worry about freezing but putting in some RV antifreeze wouldn't hurt either, keep it wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 28, 2015 Author Baller_ Share Posted October 28, 2015 @BRY engine fogger?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted October 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2015 If it is fuel injected better be fogging in the plug holes and manually rotating, fogging through the intake on an efi can gunk sensors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller TallSkinnyGuy Posted October 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2015 You can fog a TBI efi through the intake, but if it is MPI (I believe the GT40 is MPI), then you would need to pull each spark plug and fog each cylinder. An "engine fogger" as BRY called it is just a thin oil that is intended to keep a rust ring from forming when the piston sits in the same spot in the cylinder shaft for an extended period. You can by spray cans at the local auto parts store that say "fogging oil" on them. A squirt in each cylinder of an MPI engine will do the job, then pull the kill switch and turn the key to the start position for a second to get the pistons moving in the shafts and spread the oil around a bit. This whole process may not be necessary if it is just going to be sitting for a couple months. I don't know how quickly these rust rings start to develop, but if they do it will lower the compression in the cylinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Orlando76 Posted October 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2015 Just how long is several months? Are you going to be away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BRY Posted October 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2015 @Wish Keeps all the internals happy. Here in WPB things seem to rust overnight.... http://www.goldeagle.com/product/sta-bil-fogging-oil Usage Directions: 1.Start engine and remove air filter. 2. Spray fogging oil into air intakes of running engine. 3. Shut engine off after 10 seconds. 4. Remove spark plugs. 5. Attach extension tube and spray fogging oil into each cylinder for 3 seconds. 6. Replace spark plugs. I usually just sprayed in the intake when the engine was off, in each cylinder and then turned it a couple times with the kill switch pulled (just a rotation or two). Did this when I winterized in WA but the principle is the same for a long layup. Guaranteed once the 6.0L gets there you will want to leave yours up as long as possible.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 28, 2015 Author Baller_ Share Posted October 28, 2015 Maybe 4 months. Getting the use of a ZO boat for a while so that will be on my lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller wtrskior Posted October 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2015 Red stabil is not what I'd recommend. Lots of info on its overall poor quality. It will gel in short time. Seafoam is all I use and I let gas sit for 8-10 months in Temps that get down to -30 High test non ethanol fuel topped up with 2 cans of seafood is all you need to do for a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted October 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2015 What kind of seafood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Orlando76 Posted October 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2015 Honestly, I think your most effective solution is to hook a hose up to it monthly and run it for a few minutes. Make sure your last set is on a full tank of non ethanol, cover up well but dry and ventilated with 2 fans running 12 hours a day with a towel underneath to prevent rust spots on carpet, motor box propped up a few inches. Yankees go to such extent as fogging or MM oil because they CANT run their boats because of freezing issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted November 5, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 5, 2015 The owners of the lake I'm at put a dehumidifier under the cover while its on the hoist. Think I'll invest in one this winter. I also put a trickle charger on mine if its going to be over a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller liquid d Posted November 5, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 5, 2015 Storing a boat in Florida seems like such a waste...I've never heard of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BRY Posted November 5, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 5, 2015 @liquid d it's because @Wish has more boats than he can use. I've used Stabil for years, no issues at all. Know lots of people who use it without issue as well. Heard second hand stories about it gelling but only in real cold. In WA (maybe mid 20's once in a while) and FL just don't see it as an issue. Sea Foam good product too. I have had diesel fuel gel in my truck in real cold in Canada though. Probably should have used some diesel additive. What a bitch to get that started... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted November 5, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 5, 2015 The stabil gelling problem that I'm aware of was when stabil had the regular formula and when it was put in e10 gas you would get little red gel balls clogging up your carb. They quietly changed the formula and added to the e10 bogyman myths. Cleaned that crap out of a couple snowmobiles, never used it again and shockingly every piece of gas powered equipment we own works just fine without it after 6 months of storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted November 7, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 7, 2015 Never had Stabil gell, but it did turn the gaskets in my old weedwacker into jelly. I use Seafoam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoner Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 @Wish I would be as worried about rodents and such getting in eating everything including wire insulation. Look up the product called Freshcab. It is an all natural that smells like pine. Comes in a pouch. Throw a couple in the boat and sleep better when it is covered. Haven't had a problem since I started using it. 5 years ago pulled out a tree worth of chewed acorns and got to rewire the entire boat after covered in my barn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Orlando76 Posted November 7, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 7, 2015 part of my theory with the fans on a timer is it creates commotion and I would think it'll push rodents away, at least thus far I've been lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted November 7, 2015 Author Baller_ Share Posted November 7, 2015 As for rodents, I've been told using dryer sheets (from friends who store for winter) placed pretty much all other the place takes care of things like mice and such. Went ahead and did that.. Can't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted November 7, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 7, 2015 What do you put in there to keep the snakes out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted November 7, 2015 Author Baller_ Share Posted November 7, 2015 Hmmmm... Never had a snake make it in my boat, trailered or otherwise. Not sure that's a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted November 7, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 7, 2015 My folks certainly had a litter in their Florida place one time when they came back from up north ;). Ewww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Orlando76 Posted November 7, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 7, 2015 For 3 years I had a resident red rat snake in my '76, I don't mind snakes. Every time I'd take the boat out it'd get waxed and vacuumed so there was enough time to wake the snake up and it'd usually leave then come back at night and curl up underneath the engine for the warmth. Maybe that's why rodents weren't a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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