ClaiCouture Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Hey guys! I'm a recreational skier who only gets time at the mercy of boat owning friends and vacation, but right now I'm pretty comfortable at 32 and 15 off. After feeling that I'd outgrown the hook/hp available to me, at 5'2 and 120 I purchased a 65 2011 F1 w/ a shadow front binding and rtp. We're considering skipping the vacation that allows me ski time next year, so I was looking into other options. I'd love to get into trying the course out and really gain some technique after being mostly self-taught until now other than the occasional tip. I live in SE MI and looked into Pine Lake Ski School, but at $140 an hour for a lesson, I was hoping for something a bit more budget friendly considering I am a college student. So far Bennett's and Coble's look like the best options for me as I am interested in a week or so stay with lodging and food being a pretty large plus. Location is big too though, I can drive if need be, but Coble's is already pushing my range and a plane ticket hikes the cost a ton. Any thoughts, experiences, or tips? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller fu_man Posted July 10, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2016 Liquid Edge in Farmer City, IL. I have never been there nor do I have any feedback about the place. I only know it exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted July 10, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2016 I have been to Coble's many times and it is a great place that I highly recommend. April and family run an awesome fun school with good instructors and great conditions. Given how you describe your ability I think you would have a great time there. For what you get I think it is a very fair value and a lot of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaiCouture Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 @fu_man I'll look into them right now! @Chef23 They're definitely looking like one of my better options right now. Were you there for a summer camp? If so, would you say there was a wide range of ages or would I be an odd man out at 20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Edbrazil Posted July 10, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2016 Especially if you are a fledgling jumper, a ski school is worth every penny. Self-taught jumping is a scary and dangerous thing. When I spent a few days at Joe Cash's ski school in Sarasota back in Spring 1964, it was an excellent experience. I'm long past competing in jumping or even riding over the ramp, but some of the things he told me are still very valid today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted July 10, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2016 i have been there for summer camps and went as a camper along with my kids. There generally aren't a ton of 20s age campers but the counsellors/instructors are generally in their late teens to 20s so there will be someone to talk to and hang with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller wtrskior Posted July 10, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2016 $140 an hour is not a bad rate, that's $35 a set. Most lessons arent more than 15-20 mins. That rate is likely fair based on the experience of the staff. A pro typically charges $50-$80 a lesson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted July 10, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2016 Yes to liquid edge, Doug does a great job. No Jump there:. Used to be ty oppenlander had a school in SE Michigan off 94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaiCouture Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 @Edbrazil Thanks Ed, I'm really looking forward to hopefully finding some coaching, I'll probably never compete, but I'd love to improve. @Chef23 That's kind of what I figured it would be, bit of a bummer on the age front. @wtrskior I guess maybe I wasn't careful enough in looking at competitive pricing. Is an hour lesson even fully beneficial though? I can't imagine skiing well for that long. But at the same time, I don't want to spend hours driving for 20 minutes of skiing. And as someone who's only free skied, what's the definition of a set? @BraceMaker If I can find a way to maybe string together a couple lessons and make it worth my drive with LE that could be an option. I also ran across Ty's site, think he is ~2 hours from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted July 10, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2016 Try to find a friend to bring to Coble's it is great for all ability levels. 15-20 minutes is optimum for a lesson. Most of us can't do more than 6-8 passes with good strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DaveD Posted July 11, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2016 I've taken lessons at both Pine Lake and with Ty. If Ty is available, I'd recommend you make the drive. Besides doing a solid job as a coach, his lake is an awesome site. Pine Lake is wide open and can get blown out easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodecon Posted July 11, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2016 I will also recommend ty oppenlander, I havnt skied his site in MI but skied with him at Swiss Ski School and he is a great coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRSkier Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I skied with Ty last summer. $65/hour, I think. Good teacher. His lake is in Lawson, SW of Kalamazoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaiCouture Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 @Chef23 That's a good idea, now getting a college friend to commit to that amount of money... A bit harder. @DaveD I had wondered about the conditions on PL, would such to get a windy day. @rodecon Sounds like the people really enjoy Ty then, thanks! @GRskier Did you go for a lesson by yourself? If so, how did you divide up your hour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted July 11, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2016 What college? You on a team? Get on one many teams do summer trips to schools. Get in touch with don't of the Michigan teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaiCouture Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 @BraceMaker I go to Michigan Tech, I love the place, but sadly we don't have a water ski team. Probably since it isn't nice much past thanksgiving. I hadn't considered another college sending a group, but that's a real good idea, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Rpc29 Posted July 12, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2016 @ClaiCouture you need to talk to @MattP about starting a team at your school. You'll make some of the best friends of your life at NCWSA tournaments, spring break trips, and all of the other shenanigans involved with collegiate waterskiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRSkier Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 @ClaiCouture I went alone. It was my first experience with a (paid) lesson. Also my first time on a real ski lake. First pass or two was Ty observing/diagnosing. Then probably 15-20 minutes working on the pull out. Another 20 mins working on handle control. The hour went by quickly. I don't have a lesson on the calendar yet, but I intend to make the drive to Lawson a few times yet this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller wtrskior Posted July 12, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2016 I skied with TY about 8 years ago at his lake. I filmed a bunch of it; need to rehash those vids... His advice was key to helping me move from a 32mph 15 off skier to a 32 off skier. fantastic site and a great family as well; His mom and dad are class acts. Need to go back sometime!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GWaterski Posted July 13, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2016 http://www.tysskiacademy.com/ Lawton is in SWest MI about 16 miles West of Kalamazoo; TY is a fabulous coach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DUSkier Posted July 13, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2016 @ClaiCouture I wouldn't let the age thing at Cobles bother you. Anytime I have been there you will find most people on the same wavelength regardless of age and quite easy to get along with. @Chef23 thoughts are spot on from a student point of view and as an instructor there I have had students range from about 4 to 82!!!! And if you have a long distance to travel try and go a week that has a Saturday ski school as well, that way you can have a day off then get in some extra sets,,,, and play with the instructors Thursday Night =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaiCouture Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 Oh wow, so many replies, thank you everyone for your time and thoughts! While I don't think most, or any, of these plans will pan out till next year I've definitely been given a lot to think on. Ty's sounds like a great option if I find myself headed out to the west side, make it a stop on my way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller kindoitall Posted July 27, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 27, 2016 Check out http://swervewatersports.com he is doing a couple of collegiate weeks just before school starts. I can't remember what he is charging, but it's something like $80-100/ day including food and housing. Don't quote me on that, I'd let him tell you firsthand but it's a nice site in Tennessee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andy Posted July 27, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 27, 2016 I went to Ty's in June. Fantastic site and he is a great guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted July 27, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 27, 2016 @kindoitall he's making a crack at OM rankings as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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