Administrators Horton Posted December 26, 2018 Administrators Share Posted December 26, 2018 I made some changes to the web site the other day and it looks like more than 1/2 if the visitors to the site use some sort of AdBlocker. I am wondering if my data is correct. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller igkya Posted December 26, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 26, 2018 I wonder what happened to the ads. I disabled the Ad blocker for this site, but am still not seeing the ads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted December 26, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 26, 2018 I use it, but I still get all the ads on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted December 26, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 26, 2018 @Kelvin banners or ads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 27, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted December 27, 2018 @Kelvin you get some of the banners.... Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller igkya Posted December 27, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 27, 2018 @Horton, Ads seem to be back now, thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhofert Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I do use Adblocker but I have disabled it for this site. The ads are non intrusive and I actually click on some of them. As long as they stay relevant I have no problem with the way they are displayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted December 27, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 27, 2018 Sort of. I don't actually use an adblocker but google syndication and doubleclick I have blocked at the firewall. I don't have any issues with ads per se, but I do have an issue with then being used to track me through sites. It does appear that you must have shut off the doubleclick stuff that was added a week or so ago because I am seeing the ads now, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 27, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted December 27, 2018 @oldjeep I am still using double-click some but most of the banners are back to the previous system. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted December 27, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 27, 2018 @Horton, I'm using the Adblock plugin for Chrome. I never really noticed any difference in the number of ads on BallofSpray with our without the plugin. I did get your message about turning it off and now I disabled it on BOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 27, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted December 27, 2018 Thanks @Kelvin Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Roger Posted December 27, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 27, 2018 I am using ad blocker in Chrome (using IE for this session). When I access your site, I get a message that this has been detected and asked to turn it off. I use it to avoid pop-up ads and scrolling (moving) banner ads. I have no issue with the ads you have down the left or across the top, however I do not intend to disable it for anyone, even you. I have designed and deployed numerous web sites during my career and part of that process was polling users on what annoys them. The most common answer is anything that moves or pops up interrupting the reading of content. If I can't access this site via Chrome with my ad blocker, then I will not be accessing this site... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted December 27, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 27, 2018 Took a look at the source for the page, and the google blocking also blocks that ad blocker detection js that is being linked in from a Google owned site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 28, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted December 28, 2018 @Roger & @oldjeep I hear your distaste for what I am doing and do not want to discourage any long time Ballers. The rub is that if I only some of the banners display for some of the readers then I am not performing for my advertisers. I do not think this site would survive with a pay wall so I need to the banners to be seen. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Roger Posted December 28, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 28, 2018 Do what you have to, I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dchristman Posted December 29, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 29, 2018 I hate to say it, but I'm right with you @roger ... I'm out of here. My disdain for ad networks trumps my addiction to this site. I've been perfectly content for the last 5 years viewing the very relevant, sometimes entertaining, and rarely objectionable first party ads here. All during this time, I've been running ad blockers and script blockers. I felt pretty good about my obsession, believing this is how it ought to be - a website that entertains and educates me about the sport I love while supporting the businesses so closely related to it. I've bought plenty of stuff I wouldn't have because of the synergy of the first party advertising and the thoughtful conversation about the products of the forum. During slow times with no new forum content to keep me occupied, I'd click through the ads and the list of advertisers. I can't imagine any more effective advertising. Now I'm made to feel like I'm stealing something because I use an ad blocker. What I do with other sites that detect ad blockers is I don't use them, and I've gotten along fine without them. You need to do whatever is right for your business and I'm probably wrong, but for some reason the phrase "cutting off your nose to spite your face" comes to mind. I hope to see all of you at a lake somewhere, sometime, in real life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Rednucleus Posted December 29, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted December 29, 2018 I'm new here, no clue what my home & work computer do for ad blocking, bu I will say I am VERY happy visiting this forum daily. Ads are not disruptive, they relate to our sport. I don't see what all the drama is about so maybe I'm just fortunate to be tech stupid. Keep up the great work Mr. Horton & Happy New Year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 29, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted December 29, 2018 I am super sorry to see anyone tap out but if I can not deliver for my advertisers then there is no BallOfSpray. On the other hand I do not love Google either. The only ads that are served by Google are the banners that run inside the forum for the 3 biggest sponsors of the site. In the next few weeks I will look again to see if I find another way to serve those banners. Even if I do find a way to serve those ads without Google I will still ask site visitors to disable ad blocking or white list this site. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbutcher Posted December 30, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 30, 2018 Ad blockers seem to me like a fact of life that advertisers have to accept. Advertisers will lose exposure if people quit this site too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 30, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted December 30, 2018 @dbutcher http://media.tumblr.com/fe497dd337d9af8479bb6398b9565d16/tumblr_inline_mg6n5ltl6X1rxe4lt.gif This site mostly circumvents the negative repercussions of ad blockers but it is a nightmare for any advertising supported web site. Water Ski Mag did not go away because of lack of readers - it went away because of lack of ad revenue. BallOfSpray is currently a healthy business but without banners running it would simply go away. I am taking a stand because I want my advertisers to get value today and for years to come. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted December 30, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 30, 2018 Banners don't bother me. In fact the first thing I did with a new WSM was flip through page by page to look at photos/ads. @Horton to me you have some room to grow in the ad dept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted December 30, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 30, 2018 @Horton I am using Chrome and have disabled (or at least think I have in chrome - no plug in or 3rd party software being used ) the blocker for this site yet I have only 1/2 the screen viewable because your statement on the use of ad blockers is impairing my already small net book screen? In my part of the world our internet is getting slower and slower due to the increasing traffic and ever shrinking bandwidth available. If these adds are going to slow down the already slow loading of BOS pages then that is yet another issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 30, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted December 30, 2018 @S1Pitts The message should not eat up more than 1/8th of your screen and if you successfully disable your adblocker the message should not load at all. In other words - if you see the message then you have a blocker running. I am working on making the message smaller than it currently is. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted December 30, 2018 Baller Share Posted December 30, 2018 Or it could be that the script is incorrectly identifying an ad blocker because he is running on a limited functionality device or has limited js support. Trust me when i say that your ad blocker detection script isn't telling you definitively if people are blockin ads. Fwiw, the default ms edge setting that blocks certain types of bad ad serving techniques seems to hide the perfski banner image on my phone. Link is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted January 2, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 2, 2019 If anyone cares - there is no longer any Google Double Click or AdSense code running on the site. It it is going to cost me an additional $50 a month but I think it is the right direction. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jhughes Posted January 2, 2019 Baller Share Posted January 2, 2019 Lots of ways to monetize a site (and really, a community) like this aside from banners, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted January 2, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 2, 2019 @jhughes not really Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Rpc29 Posted January 2, 2019 Baller Share Posted January 2, 2019 I disabled my ad blocker for BOS and honestly couldn’t tell a difference. Most of the banners were already coming through even with it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted January 2, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 2, 2019 @Rpc29 thank you Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Rednucleus Posted January 2, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted January 2, 2019 LOL these darn ads - entered the SIA contest I saw on BOS and my wife's EMail won some free stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller FatPierre Posted January 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted January 11, 2019 I don't use Ad Blocker. I use Ghostery (mostly to stop tracking) but I have whitelisted ballsofspray yet I still see the "You are using an ad blocker?!?!?!" warning despite seeing all the ads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted January 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted January 11, 2019 That message will show up for a variety of reasons. If you have your browser security set to a reasonable level then the off site included js script that does the detection will not be allowed to run and result in the message being shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owolff Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 @horton what prompted this? Is BOS losing $ because of decreased ad revenue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted January 11, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 11, 2019 @owolff No business impact but I am aware of trends in the web advertising universe and changes in the BallOfSpray reader behaviors. A smart business person tries to stay ahead of the curve. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsc0324 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I told my Firefox to unblock for John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted April 23, 2019 Baller Share Posted April 23, 2019 Ok I have 5 internet capable devices in my house. 4/5 display the site without the view blocking banner however the 10 inch notebook I prefer for daily use has the banner. Of the 3 windows based devices the notebook is the only one running windows 10. All 3 run Kaspersky Internet Security and Chrome browser. I have tried everything I can including getting our IT tech at work to look at it and we have been unable to get the banner to clear even with Kaspersky disabled so we believe it is a windows 10 issue. Funny thing is I see the ads just fine!!!! Just cant get rid of the banner. If anyone has any suggestions I would be grateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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