Baller Kevin89MC Posted March 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 3, 2020 @CPC_1 I currently have a 1989 ProStar (live in Minnesota), and there is a very good chance it will be up for sale in April, I'm working on upgrading mainly for space. If you're interested we can take it off line, but even if not I'd be more than happy to answer any questions about that year of boat. I've had mine for 25 years, been very reliable and great to ski behind. I upgraded to GT40 heads for a noticeable bump in power, the one area the boat was kinda lacking, especially with the 1:1 transmission. Quite a bit better for course skiing and footing. Regardless, good luck! Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted March 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 3, 2020 @Kevin89MC which prop were you running with your uprated heads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kevin89MC Posted March 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 3, 2020 @BraceMaker I'm running the original 3 blade that came with the boat, likely the original prop from the factory. Can't remember the manufacturer offhand. I also have a 4 blade from the late 1990's, but I actually like the 3 blade better. The wake was a little firmer with the 4 blade, and top speed seems to be pretty close, so I just keep the 4 blade as a spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ReallyGottaSki Posted March 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 3, 2020 Not that's its the better pick, but to clarify the 86 supreme is also a composite stringer and floor boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jhughes Posted March 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 3, 2020 There's really only 1 boat from that era that could be had for less than 10K that drives, tracks, and feels even remotely modern and that's the "No Wake Zone" Ski Nautique, 90-96. Still wood stringers from 90-92 but rot on those seems relatively rare compared to other wood boats from that era. I'd pick up a wood NWZ for the right price without hesitating. The build quality of those NWZ Nautiques is awesome. Sit in one and notice you can see right out the functional windshield, the seat is the right height and everything feels right where it should be. Not to mention they look incredible. If I had a sub-10K budget I'd get the cheapest 90-96 SN I could find (and that would most likely be on the older side of the spectrum). You hear a lot of cheering for the 91-94 MC around here but the ergonomics, tracking/driving, and side spray are nowhere near the same era NWZ SN. Wake might be better but everything else is compromised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted March 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 4, 2020 @ReallyGottaSki - you sure about composite in Supreme? Will trust your call. Supremes still had some weird handling . Would definitely lean to 190 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ReallyGottaSki Posted March 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 4, 2020 @MDB1056, yeah I can add only because I used to work for a dealer then and they went composite stringers and floor in 85. Visually, these boats have the lighter, often white deck color repeated below the waterline. There may be a few odd ducks out there but by and large 85+ is the breakover. I concur the 190 would be superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller foxriverat Posted March 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 4, 2020 @CPC_1 Is the 89 MC the one in WA? Heres a few a bit closer in Nashville https://nashville.craigslist.org/boa/d/waverly-mastercraft/7068706715.html https://nashville.craigslist.org/boa/d/white-house-mastercraft-prostar-190/7065683026.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPC_1 Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 @jhughes is that NWZ Nautique the 196 or 2001?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPC_1 Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 Thanks to all of the Ballers for pitching in great comments and direction...weather in Chicago hitting the 60s this weekend...getting excited about hitting the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZswerver Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 @CPC_1 the NWZ hull is 19.6ft but I don’t know if they where ever badged a 196 like the later TSC hull Nautiques. It is not a 2001 Hull. I have a 1996 NWZ SN with the multi port EFI GT40 motor and perfect pass stargazer, while it’s not a modern ski boat like our clubs 2015 SN 200 by any stretch of the imagination it skis good and tracks well it, also has a really nice trick wake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jhughes Posted March 5, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 5, 2020 @CPC_1 "196" nomenclature began in 2002 with the TSC2 hull. It's unfortunately mistakenly used to describe older models constantly. TSC 1,2,3 are all evolutions of the NWZ hull from 1990. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted March 5, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 5, 2020 No Ski Supreme unless you want to hit a VW Beetle disguised as a wake at the lines you likely ski. If you are looking MC Prostar vs. Supreme in the late 80's/early 90's no comparison go MC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KRoundy Posted March 5, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 5, 2020 The NWZ skis really well. I had one last year before an upgrade and was often surprised at how good it really was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted March 5, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 5, 2020 My PB was behind a 1991 NWZ Nautique until this year. Nice wakes. Solid boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbaconaz Posted March 5, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 5, 2020 I would go with the MC as it should have the fiberglass stringers. Safer boat compared to the outboard style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller HMan66 Posted March 11, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 11, 2020 @CPC_1 a super clean ‘88 Prostar in your wheelhouse just popped up near you on FB marketplace. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1557672941064535/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPC_1 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 Thanks @HMan66 for the heads up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted March 11, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 11, 2020 @HMan66 @CPC_1 that's a nice MC. Skied one of those for 8 years...great boat. Super wake, handles awesome, rough in rough water like all real ski boats, has spray at shortline. Could prob get price down a little. My buddies was an '87, in really nice shape and same color as that one, high hours, and he sold for $6500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller HMan66 Posted March 11, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 11, 2020 @6balls I bought my 96 190 3 years ago with 950 hours for $12,500, but I'm in SoCal. Boat was in damn near mint condition with PP Stargazer. @CPC_1 I think you could snag that boat for under $7K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted March 11, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 11, 2020 Agree with @HMan66 . That 88 for those hours is overpriced. Picked up a very nice 90 with only 500 hours and dual axle trailer a few years ago for my daughter. Was asking $8K and we bought for $6K. Yes that was a screaming deal but shows they're out there. If you love it offer $6K and see what they say. No downside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mastercrafter Posted March 11, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 11, 2020 That’s my 88, I’m open to offers, worst thing I can do is say no. My cell 2487981958 if you’d like to chat! I have a few other Prostars for sale as well, glad to chat. One is a 88, little rougher, 800 hours with new engine 200 hours ago. I’d take $6500 for that. It’s blue and gray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPC_1 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 @Mastercrafter thanks for reaching out. I will text you directly. Thanks so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted March 11, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted March 11, 2020 To bad you’re not closer FL. Road trip? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/686871331719762/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted March 12, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 12, 2020 The right boat and deal is definitely worth a road trip. I went from central Arkansas to Michigan and back over a Labor Day weekend . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPC_1 Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 @Wish or Anyone close to Winter Haven? That’s a sweet looking boat. I’m supposed to be in Orlando at the end of month if travel doesn’t get suspended... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted March 12, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted March 12, 2020 @CPC_1 my buddy looked to purchase it. It is nice. You should go take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPC_1 Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 @Wish thanks! Saw your DM too. Will respond there soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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