Baller skibrain Posted June 9, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 9, 2020 Looks like long-line, and who knows what kind of a draft for the underwater gear, but isn’t no wake what we all dream about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Orlando76 Posted June 9, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 9, 2020 What’s the big deal? My 88 Ski Nautique had a wake just like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BrennanKMN Posted June 9, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 9, 2020 Pretty neat. Wonder what the tracking would be like for mid to short line skiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegile Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Would be a cool way to teach kids to cross the wake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DaveD Posted June 9, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 9, 2020 Would be great if they could put foils that are retractable on a wakeboard boat to make an actual multi-purpose boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibrain Posted June 9, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted June 9, 2020 $240,000 50 Nautical Miles of range at 22 knots 100% Electric 30 Knots top speed Obviously the foils and prop would foul in a course. But still fun to see someone thinking differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted June 9, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted June 9, 2020 @skibrain, I don't think the prop or the foils would be an issue in an individually anchored course, unless the horizontal stabilizers/wings are wider than, say, 5-6 feet. For a portable/cable course, you would probably only need to have the buoy lines another couple feet or so longer. The booms and mainline would need to be about 8 feet down. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller liquid d Posted June 10, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 10, 2020 1/2 your boat guides would be gone in a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted June 10, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 10, 2020 Pylon height becomes an issue too. Notice on this one, every time the skier pulls the prop starts rooster tailing a bit. Not that it’s a problem. I’d love to ski it if it could be worked out. Also, just curious if Freddie pulled his 900 pound pull on this thing, what would the boat path look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted June 10, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted June 10, 2020 Very impressed. Thought I’d see a lot more of the boat getting pulled off line and get lean over far more with each pull like most outboard runabouts. Would be interesting to see even more improvement if the rope was secured to a pylon in the middle of the boat vs back by the motor. Very cool technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MuskokaKy Posted June 10, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 10, 2020 @skibrain thanks for sharing this. Really interesting and i know the gear heads here are already thinking of ways to incorporate / alter that technology to work on our big 3 DD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted June 15, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted June 15, 2020 They seem to be very interested in promoting water skiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Garn Posted June 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 15, 2020 @Wish, there really isn't anything else for them to promote. Wakeboarders and surfers want just the opposite of what this boat offers - a big wake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted June 16, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 16, 2020 The foils work exceptionally well on the biggest of racing blow boats, and those things have more sail square footage than most houses. The lateral force on those boats so far exceeds what any skier can do it’s unimaginable. If the drive units can be made to keep a more level plane, and consistent speed, this would revolutionize tournament skiing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted June 16, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted June 16, 2020 @aupatking so my thought has been that a skier can easily pull this boat off line. Are u saying the opposite is true? From the videos so far, I do not see it getting pulled off line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted June 16, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 16, 2020 @Wish these things are so fast they actually exceed the wind speed. They’re insane to watch and have totally changed the sailing world. Look at the sail on the American boat. Even the Fred doesn’t pull that hard B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibrain Posted June 16, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted June 16, 2020 Agree. Foiling blades could both resist roll and provide a bunch of lateral stability. In application to a dedicated ski boat running on flat water, foils could be much shorter. Trick wake TBD. Maybe boat doesn’t fly until 20 mph. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Laz Posted June 17, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 17, 2020 It's a brilliant step in the right direction. I'm not sure how many more steps it will take to replace what we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GregHind Posted June 17, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 17, 2020 Incat have been building massive wave piercing catamarans with computer controlled stabilising foils for decades. If the foils the ability to steer left and right plus control up and down they would become an incredible ski boat. I guess the boat this thread about would basically already have that because it can steer when flying. Cool... and what a way to get kids skiing faster and faster through the course until they are doing a speed and are big enough they can handle the wake of a traditional boat. This would really help my kids progression all aged 7-14. Here is a pic of an in at boat. I would think this one would be fitted with their computer controlled stabiliser for rough sea use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted June 22, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2020 @GregHind the best boat out right now for your kids to get comfortable with wake crossing is the Prostar, not even a competition. That’s the thing I really miss about my 2014. I got 12 year old girl through her first full pass behind it because she was afraid of the wakes behind every other boat. My 7 year old still talks about how much she misses that boat. I do too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted October 26, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 26, 2020 @Horton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 26, 2020 Administrators Share Posted October 26, 2020 @MattP yes? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BugHunter Posted October 26, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 26, 2020 The risk of tearing up the course or your expensive underwater gear would be to high to use it in the slalom course. And for open water it might not have the range people need. Still very cool to see though. For kids and small wakes; I used a jetski for both of my kids until they started pulling to hard through the (very small) wakes to keep the thing straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MopedMedicks Posted October 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2020 If self tracking/autonomous steering boats were approved in the next few years in the AWSA Towboat Certifications - why would we continue to need boat guides? Perhaps this technology pairs well. Many will miss the trick wake, but a heck of a nice table for toes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Fastguy888 Posted October 28, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2020 I think the professional sport should maintain a reflection of the recreational sport. If foiling ski boats become common I am all for it. I love slalom for the dynamic balance of forces; Boat, Driver, Water, Skier... Take too many of those away and its a different sport. Its a slippery slope too; dedicated ski lakes could rig a track down the middle with just a pylon pulling a skier too. Cable parks are common (although can not take a 1,000 lb side load without deflecting). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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