DV8 VersaTail

[Horton]

[thager]

Wow, cool concept! Also looks like an easy way to get a slightly longer ski with a little machining ingenuity and a couple longer screws. ;) I also would recommend a little Loctite when settled on the tail piece.

[aupatking]

@Horton All tails are the same length? Any one of them easier than another to get consistent DFT measurements? Looks like the answer to question 2 would be an obvious “square is easier than round” but just thought I’d ask since you’ve got one and I don’t. Yet

[Horton]

@aupatking I think you need to change your DFT methods a little with the DV8.

 

Just spitballing here.....

 

Start with the standard tail. Set a base DFT. Adjust as needed. When you change to the sharp or round tail you need to remeasure and note the delta.

 

We measure DFT as if the distance from the back of the fin to the physical tail of the ski is critical. That not really what is important. The way we measure is DFT is just a shortcut to finding the distance between the fin "Center Of Pressure" and the bindings.

 

So even though the DFT measurement maybe different with different tails I think it is a mistake to think that you need to move your fin so the DFT number stays the same.

 

Does that make any sense???

[jjackkrash]

@joelhowley says always measure the fin with stock tail regardless of which tail you are using for measurements. Swap it in, measure, swap it it out.

 

Note that the instructions that came with the ski say you can measure DFT without any block on at all for consistency.

 

Joel's post is in this thread:

 

https://www.ballofspray.com/forum#/discussion/24021/the-2021-dv8-featuring-versatail-by-connelly-skis/p3

 

He still owes a fin set up video. :)

[Horton]

@jjackkrash that would be the simple solution.

[CollinSpradlin]

Fun Fact: @Horton was instrumental in pushing Connelly into a new fin block design.

 

Trivia: What other aspect of our high-end skis changed after sharp criticism from the admin here?

 

Prize: Official Vintage Connelly Factory Test Team die cut sticker.

[Horton]

@CollinSpradlin that fin box is so good!

[aupatking]

@CollinSpradlin that sweet clean edge tail?

[Horton]

just so everybody knows, I have no idea what @CollinSpradlin is talking about.

[MattP]

@CollinSpradlin There are a number of things that come to mind. What is fin flex or the micro-just just to get things rolling.

[swaterkd]

There is also another thing about this ski. I have two friends both high level skiing on it and they are 3D printing different tails!!!

[UCFskier]

fin block looks sweet!!

Have to ask.... I know a lot of design goes into a total ski... to have the base flow into the tail and for everything to work in conjunction with all other aspects.

 

is it possible to have one base design work with 3 different tails? I look forward to you review @Horton

[CollinSpradlin]

@Horton it's good because I had no design input :p

 

@aupatking no, but good guess!

 

@MattP also a nice guess

[BobF]

@CollinSpradlin - Graphics? Binding screw pattern? Couldn't think of anything else.

[Skoot1123]

How about the tail riding a little higher in the water so it takes less effort to ski on.

[CollinSpradlin]

@BobF you're getting close! It's not graphic related but it does have to do with the aesthetic of the ski.

 

@Skoot1123 that IS what our square or "sharp" tail does, but we didn't get that idea from JH.

[dchristman]

@CollinSpradlin aesthetic but not graphics. I'm thinking he didn't like the tip shape of the old Prophecy.

[BraceMaker]

@CollinSpradlin flat top deck?

@Thager all that length would be at the rear end and be as DFT. Would probably force a binding move and then you're not on the same portion of the rocker.

 

 

[CollinSpradlin]

@Dchristman tip shape? No, but that's the area of the ski we're looking at.

 

@BraceMaker we started C.A.P.T. (Connelly Advanced Profile Technology) back in the day to move away from flat top skis. The DV8 and GT-R are quite a bit more traditional than some previous models though. That came from another JH. :)

[dchristman]

@CollinSpradlin well then it must be the length sticker on the bottom of the tip :)

[BraceMaker]

So if not the capt being modified... is the forebody perhaps thinner?

[Horton]

@dchristman that must be it! the stupid stickers. @Sethski actually can't run a pass if he doesn't have a sticker on the tip of his ski!

[Sethski]

@Horton to be fair, I like the size sticker...but do you need to understand I’d go toe to toe with no size sticker, overhand grip, opposite foot forward with you any day...challenge extended my friend...as long as I can ride my DV8...(for clarification...we will both be opposite foot forward)

[Horton]

@Sethski wrong foot forward? Will beers be involved? I have moved to tequila so we will need to negotiate terms.

[Sethski]

@horton No beers, no booze, just raw old man athleticism or lack thereof. And let’s don’t involve younger more capable waterski athletes...let’s stick with our old asses

[Horton]

@Sethski I am not sure about wrong foot forward. How about trick ski slalom or wooden ski slalom?

[CollinSpradlin]

@dchristman You got it! Send me your address at collins@connellyskis.com to claim your prize!

 

[CollinSpradlin]

@horton @Sethski Can we please be there for this competition?

[dchristman]

Nice, @CollinSpradlin just like the old days -

 

 

Woohoo! It's a major award!

 

 

[CollinSpradlin]

Crap! Now I have to find a bonus prize for the Christmas Story reference... So good.

[KRoundy]

@CollinSpradlin Good stuff! Love that photo of the mold. Way cool. Come on, sun, we need some warmth. It's time to start skiing again.

[dchristman]

My Major Award arrived today, thanks @CollinSpradlin ! The wife will not be happy with it in the front window. Thanks also for the bonus stuff :)

[Sethski]

I’m up for those three events @horton