Joel Feder

Just wanted to thank you all again. I bought a 67" Senate Graphite based on your advice and can't wait to get on it this weekend and next week. P.S. When I saw the 69" in person I had to agree. It really did appear massive.

You guys are great, and I'm totally a @chrisrossi‌ fan. I'll be getting a 67" based on your advice. On the fence regarding alloy or graphite, but I'm sure either will be just fine for me.

Thanks guys! Sounds like 67" is the way to go for me, hear it loud and clear. Appreciate your advice, honestly.

I'd love to I5boi, but the whole reason I'm buying a ski is Delta Airlines destroyed my KD CR7 (don't worry, they cut me a check). Literally, destroyed. I was devasted. I had that ski tuned just to my preference and loved it. No complaints. So now I'm forced to buy something... I'm guessing on open water and no course, the Vapor is simply more ski than I need. I'm not about to have a big head and say I'm the world's greatest skier. So at this point, thinking it's a Senate. Probably going Alloy. Still debating whether to get 67" or 69" since my KD CR7 was a 70" and I had no issues.

Hmm. Interesting stuff. Thanks guys.

To answer a few of the above questions. I do cut across the wake hard and fast, I cut hard and frequent. I basically go back and forth over and over as if I'm on a course even though I'm not. Though, obviously, no buoys. My logic with the 69 is A. at 185 lbs now, if or when I get back closer to 200, I'll be working harder with the 67". B. I was on a 70" KD CR7, so won't a 67 feel small while a 69" would feel closer to the size I'm good with now? At this point on the graphite/alloy question, I'm leaning towards alloy. Also, seriously, you guys are super helpful. Really appreciate this discussion. Love that there's a community out there where people literally just sit and discuss this stuff.

I have considered the Theory. Technically, the Theory is as wide as my KD CR7 was (I measured it). But from what I've read, and according to Radar, the Theory is best skied at a max speed of 32 mph. I typically ski at 34 mph, which seems to put me into the Senate. I do have a place to test skis, but, I've not backed myself into a time table to buy this ski as I go on vacation at the lake in less than a week and have no time before that to go test. Poor planning and procrastination on my part... The boat is an I/O, though, its wake is pretty nice (for an I/O). Obviously an inboard would be ideal, but it's the main family/activity boat, so, is what it is for now. Next boat will hopefully be an inboard as they've come a long way in terms of packaging since we bought the 2000 LSi.

P.S. I'm not seeing that the Senate comes in 68", only 67" and 69"...

You guys rock. Also, the comment about me not being a big man made me laugh, hilarious. I agree, not sure I'll truly notice the difference between the alloy and graphite since I'm on open water just going hard for fun. I think the reason I'm now debating 67" vs 69" is what happens if I gain my weight back and go above 200 lbs... At 185, I'm not convinced I won't be 210 lbs by next summer. Leading to the question of, if i get the 67" at 185 lbs, and get to be 210... will I have issues making me regret not getting the 69"? Remember, I was skiing a 70" KD CR7 for the last like eight years... Sounds like I should go with the alloy... just debating the length now. Seriously, you guys are so helpful. Can't believe I didn't know about this site until last night.

Huh. That's so interesting (seeing as I didn't feel the 70" was huge). Though, I bought the 70" when I was overweight at 230 lbs. Now I'm down quite a bit (185, though I should be 200 by the end of the summer with muscle). Radar suggests 69" for 180-200 and 67" for 160-200. I'm currently 185...

Huh, I'm surprised you think I should go with the 67". I was looking at Radar's sizing chart, and it says 160-200 lbs for the 67", and 180-220 lbs for the 69". Seeing as I was skiing a 70" already with no issues at 34 mph, I figured I should stick with the 69" as once I put muscle back on I should be back around 200 (ish) lbs. Can you tell me more about why you think the 69" will be too big? Appreciate your insight.

I should've probably mentioned I'm currently 5'10" and about 185 lbs. I was skiing a 70" KD CR7. Based on the fact that I'm currently at the lighter end of the scale for me (lost some muscle over the winter) I'm figuring I should get a 69" Senate/Graphite Senate, unless you guys think otherwise?

Hey guys, new here and looking for some advice. I'm just coming off a KD CR7 and am looking at the Graphite Senate and Alloy Senate. Having trouble deciding which to go with. I ski at about 34 mph, open water. Never ski the course. So far I'm skiing the full rope, but might start playing with a little shorter rope once I get the hang of the new ski. Typically go out while the water is glass, but occasionally there's slight chop when I'm desperate and just can't wait for glass (skiing is better than not skiing, right?). Skiing behind a Harris 2000 LSi deck boat (which surprisingly has a decent wake for a deck boat). Absolutely loved my KD CR7, and it was pretty legit when it came out, but seems a lot has changed since then. Thoughts? Advice? Kind of thinking I should go with the Alloy Senate but just don't want to be disappointed.