@booze Yes, I've been out to LL, but only as a spectator, I've never had the opportunity to ski there. I'll watch out for you on LT, we are on the north end of the lake at Carmel Bay. Currently in a yellow MC 205v, yes with a tower. @Timr71 I just picked up a portable course, it needs a little work, but will be able to drop it in LT in a few weeks.