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You are correct. You would need to bump them up to min 22. Perhaps the alternative would be to ask the developer for a custom firmware modification??

@wtrskr Question I may have missed on this. Can you start/stop the paintball shooting at any time? What if a person falls or misses a ball? Yes. User controls are intuitive and right at drivers forehead. If my skier stands up mid-pass, I stop and re-start him when he's ready. Also, it will automatically shut off on a fall when the boat speed is less than 22mph. The remainder of your sentiments are dead on.

@igkya Good Point. I went into GEEK-mode on this and deciphered Total Cost of Ownership and compared it to the $50/set Slalom club. This time I factored in GAS (total guess on the $4 figure, but thought 8 passes would suck up about a gallon). The slalom club charges $50/set. That is all-in, so no GAS in those figures. From there, I calculated a justification point (which for me, turns out to be 18 days of skiing due to the fact that I only paid for half the OffCourse). If I'd have kicked down the $2600 solo, justification wuold be at 34 days of skiing.

@Andre Holy cow. I have no idea. Thanks for the catch. You are absolutely correct. 112 balls total. That brings our daily total (including CO2) to $4.06 per skier per day. Wow - I'm embarassed. We fire the unit 2x per trip down the lake, so I wonder if my logic was askew based on that... but it still would have been wrong. Who knows, but either way, thanks for being on your toes and calling me out on that error.

OffCourse - Thoughts and Financials from a Seasoned Uer: I thought some of you might find it interesting that my ski buddy and I have consumed 3500 paintballs since we received our OffCourse on June 2. That may seem like a lot, but let's put things into perspective. We each ski 8 course passes in one set. 13 balls per pass = 104 balls per skier (208 balls per day total). 3500 / 208 would suggest we've run OffCourse 16.8 ski days since it was delivered in early June (which seems about right). If you factor in the math on the consumables: When I order Nelson Paint Clear/Clear, with shipping, it's about $95 for 2000 balls. That works out to $.0475 per ball (US). That's $9.88 per day in balls. We exhaust (4) 12g cartridges of CO2 at an average cost of about $.70/ea (total daily spend on CO2 = $2.80). Total cost for two guys to exhaust themselves and ski until they pretty much can't anymore each morning: $12.68 (or $6.34 per guy). Untinkable fun and VALUE. Compared to the closest slalom lake where the club gets $50 per "set". Drive an hour to the slalom lake. Pay $50 per guy. Ski like crap. Your set consists of 6 passes rather than 8 and falls count. Get frustrated and go home pissed. I'll take OffCourse! It's so EASILY justifiable (although I think I'm ready to test my skiing on a fixed course again soon). Oh - and I should mention - the device really has not missed a beat! 5min to mount it up and load it when we hit the water and 5min to put it away. Great Product!

@klindy There is a zero ball. My driver/OffCourse operator knows - after I get up and I'm ready to go, I ski into the left side foam. That's when he knows to press "A+START" on OffCourse. I lean into my pull-out, and GO LIKE HELL at the 0-ball marker. I'm set up nice for 1 and it feels like a great gate. It takes a bit of driver/skier practice to time this properly, but we've been using ours for about 5 weeks now and we're dialed in. There is a rather mature 13 page thread on OffCourse (link below): Plenty of other info. I'm really looking forward to John's take! https://www.ballofspray.com/forum#/discussion/20635/new-extremely-portable-slalom-course

@Wish I'm not sure if this helps at all, but after using ours a few times, my ski partner and I both agreed that (ERIK - PLEASE DON'T READ ON), It's worth it at TWICE the price! Free skiing digs you into a rut. OffCourse challenges you and changes the sport for guys like us! I cannot wait until tomorrow morning! Going for 32 off (A)!

Is there any chance we could see a list of skis/sizes that will be available? Thanks.

@braindamage - we ski on Lauderdale (Elkhorn) and we really like the offcourse.

I used to ski tournaments (and barefoot 8s) at Neosho Millpond. I've not seen nor heard of a course there in years. A group on Tichigan put in a course on a really remote area of the lake, but that ONE guy had to complain, so no more course. Options these days are quite limited. I bought OffCourse and it serves as great alternative!

Does anyone use this with a trailered boat? Do you remove before you hit the road? It would be no different than using it with a boat on a lift. It comes in a REALLY nice carry case. Ours lives in the case up in the garage unless we are using it. It literally takes about 5 minutes to pull it out of the case and install it/feed it. Another 5 minutes to pack it up at the end of your set. I would never leave it on the boat while trailering.

@skennedy 1. Any advice for how to handle the zero ball for timing the rest of the course? I ride the left foam and as soon as I see my OffCourse operator reach up to start the system, I immediately initiate my pull-out. That seems to work pretty well. 2. Any paintball brand that people are really liking? I saw @ErikBerghiller mentioned Empire Heat, but I couldn't find those on Amazon. Other suggestions? I strongly recommend Nelson Paintball CLEAR/CLEAR. This is a clear shell ball with clear filling. Minimal mess if they accidentally break. 3. Any preferred CO2 brand? No. Just don't buy the threaded cartridges. They don't work. 4. Any other advice for getting it set up and calibrated? Start with a level boat. Velcro a 24" bubble level to the dash and go from there.

Follow up to yesterdays post: My ski partner and I ski without a spotter and never realized how UN-level the boat is until we tried to calibrate OffCourse yesterday. Today, we leveled the boat (weight under observer seat) and off we went. It took 9 balls (shot in groups of 3 when calibrating) on one side and the other side of the boat we somehow calibrated in one try (3 calibration balls were fired). From there, we skied! I took the first few passes and even though I'm an awesome free skier at 35off (34mph), put some balls in front of me and it all goes to shit (LOL)! I was humbled (as I always am any opportunity I have to get on a course). I started at 28 off. Struggled a bit, so had my driver/OffCourse operator give me 6 at level B. Skied a clean 6-pack (woo-hoo!). "WTF is level B?", you might ask. The genius product developer gave us 3 options for course length. A is standard (134' down-course turn buoy to turn buoy). B is 1.25x Level A, and C is 1.5x. This will give the skier a feel for course width, but allow for just a bit more time to get there (IMO - add to the fun factor). I bounced back into Level A and skied a better set. My ski partner had a very similar experience working his way through 22off. The bottom line: We both have been free skiing with very little access to course skiing for a LONG time. OffCourse reminded us IMMEDIATELY that we simply are not getting enough width while free skiing. There will be some timing elements to work out (like nailing the "zero" ball) and some other minor tweaks, but overall, the learning curve is short. We both had fun today and we both agreed - free skiing is like getting stuck in a bit of a rut... this will refine our skiing like free skiing would never have done (and add to the fun factor)!

We had ours on-water for the first time this AM. I'm very impressed with the quality and elegance of the build as well as the product presentation and packaging. Set-up/install is easy. NOTEWORTHY: If you are like me and like pressing buttons and what-not on new toys, refrain from playing around with the cocking pins until you have it on-water/loaded and energized with pressure (or in other words, follow the instructions). On the plus side, I sent an email to Rodics asking if anyone could take a support call. Minutes later, my phone was ringing with support on the line! Thank You! We ran out of time and did not complete calibration this AM, but we were very close before we had to shut it down and go to work. More to come!

Erik - as it would turn out, please don't feel compelled to answer the above question on my behalf. I just ordered one, so the question is moot for me.

I've been lurking on this for months. I'm very pleased to see the outcome of the fixed course test... So much so, I had to register on BoS to post (first post). @ErikBerghiller - I know a guy who ordered one. He would let me borrow/test on my lake (my boat) in order to qualify it for purchase. Is it accurate to assume that we'd need to go through the entire calibration process if moving it from a ProStar to a Response, or if windshield height (from water level) is virtually the same on both boats, would we be OK with just moving it from boat to boat?