davemac

@WBLskier I'm not in the loop now with youth intro slalom skis, but I think you might want to look at the HO Grifter or the HO Judge (62" and 61" I believe).

@WBLskier While they are a great combo set...I quickly got my daughter off the Jr Vortex slalom once she she got up on it... with the help of a trainer handle ( I think she was a very tall 8 year old and prob close to 80 lbs). To the best of my recollection, once that ski and its plastic fin exceeded 20 mph it seemed to go into a "speed wobble" . I got her on a dedicated slalom ski and it made a big difference.

Yep, as proven time and time again....EZ Ed knows best.

Thanks for that confirmation, Kelvin. I just added them to an order I have w/ H20proshop.

I see that HO makes somes weights you can add over the fin block on their combo trainers. Anyone know if something similar is available for the O'Brien Jr Vortex?? This hopefully is the year that my little one moves on from the skimmer.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe in year 2011 the Lyric,Senates,Theory, & P6 were updated construction

Than,

My (13yo) daughter has them on her 65" Lyric. She is a W 8 1/2, and fits into the "smalls"....the "standards" were too big. No complaints on your three priorities (safety, comfort, ease of entry). Aside from a couple small differences, they will be similar to anything you hear about the Radar Vector boots.

@ski4xtc, Yep...ended up installing it w/ the PTM RTS-100 mount (on my 03 RLXi). Hoping to have my boat in the lake w/in the next 7 days...to put it to the test. If you care to read about the install...follow this link

themalibucrew.com/forums/index.php?/topic/37481-ptmedge-mirror-on-03-rlxi/

looks like it would be here bglasses.com

a couple links for the 24/7 hoodie. They seems to run a bit big.

 

H20 hoodie.... h2oproshop.com/h2oproshop-com-cool-plus-hoodie.html

 

Eagle hoodie.... barefootcentral.com/coolplushoodie.aspx

 

No, I'm gonna keep it. Early and Late season (when my boat is in storage)...I ski behind buddy's SN. The mount will allow me to easily transfer the mirror to his boat. The wider visual range is great...and adds safety if no observer is present.

@easttxskier , Thanks, and Yes, I confirmed that the mirror mates fine w/ the Cipa Extreme windshield mount...like the one in the attached photo.

However, that CIPA mount does not mate well w/ the "bulbous" frame of my boat's windshield (03Rlxi). Thus, I'll be using the PTMEdge RTS-100 mount.

 

Gotcha...I get all that, and am all for it....that video solves a big part of the problem...getting a consistent and repeatable measurement. I just find the DFT measurement frustrating... and with the host of different tools, gizmos, and lack of standardization of measurement methods ...one person's numbers don't equal/translate to another person's numbers...that is the inconsistency variable I was trying to refer to. Heck, has it even been determined how consistent the rear bevel is from one ski to another (of same model)...as that would also factor in the measurement?

As a side note, I had a machinist friend cut a notch out of the "ruler" of my calipers. It surprised me how different the #'s register when using the slot vs not...with the same caliper....presumably due to the concave issue.

 

 

Interesting video....throws yet another variable as to the lack of consistency with the methods and reported DFT measurements. I've also wondered how much difference there is with the thickness of the jaws of different brands of calipers. When measuring the DFT, this would have significant effect over where the jaw contacts the bevelled rear edge of the ski.

Here is something.... d3skis.com/help_answer.asp?ID=17

 

There was a really good write up by Chris Rossi, but it seems as though his slalomguru website is not currently active.

Sethro...Since you are using individual plates, I'd put the nylon washers between the plate and the ski (that is where mine are). Agree...those large, flat round heads of the screws act as a washer.

 

The "T" washers referenced above are for use w/ the single, Sequence plate. The don't fit in the holes of the individual plates (at least not in mine).

Curious...do you care to disclose which New Hampshire lake?

Maybe dress it up a bit by including Rod's skier logo....

http://static-cl1.vanilladev.com/ballofspray.vanillaforums.com/uploads/FileUpload/5b/9a32bacd04120df546c7a43c90c572.jpg

@EdObermieir Hey EZ Ed, If you can wait a couple weeks til I'm out of storage, I'll have your answers and photos. Have the mirror now, and RTS-100 mount on the way. I'll be sure to drop you an email. I have no tower and an Evolution cover, so I have the same concerns about folding down the mirror to accommodate the cover.

Dave

@marco- yes, they can be used for either foot. One thing to consider.. I do not know whether it is advisable to mix feather frame w/ aluminum plate. Radar advertises the feather frame as "1/3 lower, 1/3 lighter". I'm thinking the "1/3 lower" refers to the footbed, meaning that the other Lyric (on an aluminum plate) would be on a different plane. Not sure how significant that would be.

My daughter has them. They are NOT foot specific. Depending on which plate you go with, you might want to make sure it will fit the ski. Looks like there are a couple Ski it again. I may be wrong, but I believe in the Small size feather frame, you might encounter some limitations as to what skis they will fit.

If it is of any help, my daughter is a womens 8 1/2, and is in the smalls (Standard size had just a bit too much slop for her foot).

If anyone is already using the CIPA Extreme adaptor for Monster Tower, I believe that will also work w/ the PTM

shop.monstertower.com/p-38-cipa-extreme-mirror-adaptor.aspx

 

@ski4xtc , interesting how you "flipped" the bracket mount. Does your cover not snag/chafe on the mount, even w/ the mirror folded down?

Just ordered one for my RLXi. If anyone is using one in an 03-06 RLXi....please PM me any mounting suggestions or helpful hints. TIA

one strange thing I found is that rest and/or "doing nothing" does not make it go away. I had it bad from golfing a few years back. Season ends in Oct up here. By March it was still as bad as ever. Eventually ended up in PT to get rid of it.

BOS....got glass?