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Thanks for all the feedback! Please keep it coming, all super helpful. On some of the points mentioned so far; Boot positioning - yes not having smaller increments is definitely an oversight, thanks for flagging @Bill22 @skialex will see to that Preferences - @blakeyates when you register you can choose your preferences for MPH or KPH / feet off or metres on / Fahrenheit or Celsius etc and that is remembered to save you converting each time from whichever you happen to 'think in'. Speed control - @mfjaegersr @Wish thanks for the thoughts on PP. Its been a long time since I've skied behind / driven with PP, and to be frank I've not kept up with all the revisions and retro-fit options which have come out since. In an ideal world what list of options would there be for the various permutations of PP today? I'm sure we can do something about that.

Swervetracker is now live: https://swervetracker.squarespace.com/ We've gone for a web app, so it will work across all android and iOS devices, as well as your PC. I recommended hitting the 'download and install button' which will take you to instructions on how to get an app icon on your mobile home screen - that way whenever you hit that button, Swervetracker will open up just like any other app, as opposed to in a browser window. Look forward to hearing all your feedback! Owen

@MBlohm thanks for the feedback! There is a section where you can see data just like you describe: number of passes completed per line/speed, percentage completion rate, and even average number of buoys scored on each line/speed. I really like your idea about a moving average on those data sets too. I won't be able to get that into V1 but definitely on my radar now for future development. I'll be posting links when we're live. Making some final tweaks/testing now so will be one day next week. Hopefully as we get feedback then, I can prioritise developments to follow up with. @santangelo wow that could be great, thank you. May well look to follow up with you on this for future development too. @BCM thanks for the kind words! In case you were wondering about the triangles too - those are tournament sets

@503Kento great to hear, thanks for your support too! Welcome any thoughts on the scoring system for the handicapped leagues - an annual league that just ranks by most improved vs prior year best score? A system that gives points weekly (so also rewards consistency)? Any reward for number of sets taken / buoys skied?! I've been doing plenty of headscratching on what might be most fun!

@KRoundy thanks for your support! Will be available very soon! In the meantime, if you want to note down when you ski and your scores etc, you'll be able to upload backdated info when Swervetracker launches

@KRoundy - great question. The design has been centered around course skiing, but there's no reason you couldn't simply input the line length and speed of an off course set as perhaps just a single pass. On notes, yes! There's a big section designed for typing in notes just like that. I think that's one of the most useful things - I've lost count of the number of times my own form has faded - and at such times you wonder has the water temp dropped? Is it my settings? Have conditions really been worse recently? Swervetracker has been designed to make it easy to rule in (or out) those variables, as well as make it easy to find and revisit your notes from when you were skiing great - often the fix is inside those!

@Chris Rossi - it is not live yet, we are launching very soon on both devices. Great to have all your feedback in the meantime - particularly on whether handicapped leagues with your buddies on Swervetracker would be of value?

@Wish that would be a cool problem to have! Data is being stored in a 3rd party data center. "The cloud"! I expect volumes of data will be quite modest, and so I plan to fund cloud storage out of my own pocket for as long as that remains the case. The sport has given me so much and it would be cool to create something we all value to give back. If it proves as popular as you suggest, frankly I would cross that bridge when we come to it - perhaps modest contributions towards running costs could help. Though with that many users it would be little more than a couple sets worth of gas per year I would think.

Hi @vtmecheng - yes absolutely! You can choose Zero Off and your setting on the system. You can select a default so you don't have to put it in every time (I haven't changed for years), but have the option to change every set if you're playing around with settings

Hi ballers - I’ve been using the quiet winter months to develop an app - largely in a geeky quest for data on my own skiing – but I hope it’s something the rest of the waterski community can enjoy too. Key features: - Log a set easily in less than 60 seconds, including each pass, water temp, wind speed, driver, lake, zero off setting, ski, fin settings, and of course a log book of your personal notes. - We have made extensive use of pre-populated fields to make this process FAST - Review your progress across a range of charting and data analysis - Set your own preference for kph/mph, ‘metres on’ or ‘feet off’, and Celsius or Fahrenheit Following up soon, subject to interest: - Set up handicapped leagues with your ski buddies to spur each other on! It's great to share this with you all – I will upload a few teasers below - and wholeheartedly welcome your feedback / questions. Swervetracker is now available at https://www.swervetracker.com/ - follow the instructions under 'download and install' to get an icon app on your home screen' Owen Shirley

Hi ballers – I was delighted to come across this thread. This seems like an appropriate time to announce the launch of Swervetracker I’ve been using the quiet winter months to develop an app that does just this. It is effectively complete and will be live in a few days time. @zbod – awesome to hear you’ve thought about this too! We're obviously quite some way down the line, but please do DM me if you might be interested in helping us with developing Swervetracker further. Key features: - Log a set easily in less than 60 seconds, including each pass, water temp, wind speed, driver, lake, zero off setting, fin settings, and of course a log book of your personal notes. - We have made extensive use of pre-populated fields to make this process FAST - Review your progress across a range of charting and data analysis Following up soon: - Set up handicapped leagues with your ski buddies to spur each other on! I will start a new thread for feedback and include some teaser images – it’s great to share this with you all. Owen Shirley

Towards the end of last season i started struggling turning as the water got cold. Rather than playing with the fin, i moved my bindings forward one hole and the improvement was enormous from the first set, reversing a couple of weeks of increasingly bad scores. A few weeks in to the new season now, I'm wondering what the signs are to know when to move bindings back to original place? That set up had felt fantastic before, it just seemed to stop working as the water got really cold - but I'm sure the time will come to move back soon. If it's relevant, ski is a 66" Vapour, Strada front and toe loop. Running 22 down to a few buoys at 35 off. Thanks in advance for any advice!

Tried the new Vapor for the first time today, with the Matt Rini settings. Ran straight down the line to a season PB, and overall it felt great (coming off a 2010 silver Strada!). The biggest thing was how stable the ski felt from tip to tail - it just stayed so flat all the time - I was almost able to entirely forget about managing that aspect of my skiing. Having said that, I do want to try some different fin settings, as I wouldn't say I was 100% comfortable on the ski. Perhaps that was partly because my old Strada is probably a bit 'soft' by now. But the feeling was that the Vapor was totally on rails. While I'd generally feel that's a good thing for confidence, at current settings it felt just a tad too much - like I was a passenger at times. Essentially once I'd changed edge, I felt like I couldn't manage the radius and trajectory of the turn myself - like it was already set. Would massively appreciate any advice with alternative settings to try - would go for the Rossi numbers but not completely clear which ones they are? A lot of slightly different numbers seem to have cropped up through the thread! Ski is a 66...(I'm about 160lbs 5ft 11, skiing 58kph/36mph 22-35off)

Thanks very much! No feet it is then :smile:

I'm planning on ordering my first drysuit for the start of the coming season. Having no experience of them, I'm wondering whether to go for one with rubber feet built into the suit, or the type which just seals around the ankle? I'm attracted to the idea of integral feet - mainly thinking a bit of extra warmth and no possibility of water seeping through an ankle seal. Does anyone have experience skiing with one of these? My only concern is around whether the rubber bunches up and is uncomfortable when put in a ski boot, and also whether I'd wreck the drysuit rubber boot/sock ramming it into my toe loop! I ski with a strada front binding and toe loop rear if that makes any difference...any advice would be massively appreciated!

Hi all, my girlfriend recently learnt to ski, and is confident now doing deep water starts on one ski, turning, cutting the wakes etc. She's picked it up surprisingly quickly and will probably end up doing at least 3 sets a week next year, so I want to get her a proper slalom ski - so far she has been on a combo ski. Ideally something easy to learn on but equally something which won't become obsolete once she starts to move through the speeds in the course. I've read some other posts saying the Radar P6 is a good beginner ski - although these were mainly directed at 6ft plus guys - has anyone had good experiences with the Ladies P6? Or perhaps another brand entirely? Any advice is much appreciated, open to all suggestions - thank you!

Out of interest, what are the barriers? (Completely concur that it is difficult to see a ski tournament being given the go ahead...but not sure exactly why?) Disruption? On a theoretical basis, what would it take? (assuming unlimited resources)

Has anyone used this stuff? Can think of plenty of applications in our world...Ski gear, boat seat, windscreen, carpets... unless it needs re-applying a lot? http://gizmodo.com/you-can-finally-buy-the-magical-spray-that-waterproofs-563613333

Plus JB Ski http://www.jbski.com/

Kevin, It is possible that rather than overturning, you are leaning too long after the second wake before your edge change. This would mean at each turn your are exceeding the boat speed, and therefore when you turn in you're 'pushing' on the rope, giving you slack, and a hit from the boat. This seems possibly a more likely explanation than overturning every single buoy, however I could well be wrong. If you uploaded some video i'm sure you will get plenty of feedback. Owen

DW - Senna is a great film, I'd highly recommend it if you're into motor racing, in fact it's popular amongst even those who are not. Put together very well. Don't know how well the Spice Girls were known in the USA (from the UK) - but they were a big pop band in the 90s, and one of the members from that Gerri Halliwell started skiing last summer.