LOS, I'll definately let everyone know, but for you it'll cost a 6-pack. /vanillaforum/js/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-surprised.gif In talking to corporate they suggested posting it here and getting everyone to respond is the best way to show HO they should start up production on these gloves again. I've emailed our locale HO rep and asked all dealers to post up here and tell thier reps the demand is there.  dsmart,  WSW doesn't have any. LKB,  The talons did have strap on the back but the signature trait was the under wrist metal triangle and two straps that takes the stress off the forearms and slightly curved the fingers adding for a better grip and assisted in lessening the fatigue.