Mortyski

Nah...but I do call them Larry, Curly and Moe with them standing there and they argue about who is Curly. We briefly watched a 3 stooges DVD from a TV show and I have to admit humour has changed since that time.

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Murray Mortson from Chestermere AB but I water ski in Montana. 57 years old this year. Father of 3 boys: Larry, Curly and Moe and married to a babe. I snow ski and water ski passionately...unfortunately I'm better at snow skiing. Ski Natique fan owned an 89, 92, 02 and now 200. I change hulls when Natique does. Engineer by profession and I tried to put together LISA 2 for GPS / Load cell analysis of waterskiing technique. My biggest claim to fame on water is I took the photo AB uses on his ID

our secret lake in Montana

this is my happy shot...getting more out of the old 71 inch Triumph than I'm supposed to

So before this thread goes into magnetic heaven and is lost forever....has anybody skied on the old 71 triumph and the new 71 triumph...any comparisons?

 

thanks,

Morty

Hi Monsterair...as I said it was years ago but it was kinda fun. It makes one appreciate how good the good guys are today to do that and a whole bunch more at 36 mph

 

What confuses me is people are getting bigger but the waterski world has sort of ignored that and they don't make a performance ski for anyone over 220 lbs or so.

 

Big guys are always have compromises in water skis...does it glide, start, turn or hold an edge / pop the wakes. That is one thing I like about snow skiing over water skiing is the fact you can use the same skis without a huge compromise in functionality.

 

my best,

Morty

 

 

 

 

thanks Monsterair for the update

 

I had the old Senate C 69inch , I have not tried the new one based on the Strada yet. AB, who I keep contact with seems to like the new SC. I've seen him dance to mid 35 on the old 69 SC and it was only a "Brain _art" that kept him from running that pass as he was way ahead of things before the BF. So maybe the new SC based on the Strada plus a few less lbs is the way to go.

 

I can imagine the 71 Triumph felt squirley over 32 mph, I know the old one certainly didn't like anything over 32 mph at all and barely tolerates 32 mph.

 

Just so you know years ago I actually run through 38 off on a Kahuna carve at wide ride speeds so it can do the course but it had to be slower speeds as you mentioned

 

my best,

Morty

Will do Bogboy as I am sure there are more than the half dozen of us on this thread that are interested in this

 

...the trick is to find a ski that turns, starts and glides and you can do some warm up passes at wide ride kinds of speed without it feeling like a 20 second deep water start.

 

I tried the old Senate C, and a new Theory and they are both great skis but I felt drag at wide ride speed, the drag was so bad the ski wouldn't work. The 71 triumph didn't sink but couldn't turn very quickly. I do admit that a lot is technique but I have waterskied for decades and snow skied for the same time and I know when you have a "super G" ski don't expect to run a "slalom" course in it. I own DH, SG, GS, and Sl snow skis for that reason as they don't do the same thing.

 

Years ago I used the Icon Power Carve Kahuna Carve ski and that was fun....do water skis wear out...snow skis certainly do? Maybe I should dust off and go back to the old power carve....which I consider one of the best water ski shapes ever.

 

A carbon fibre power carve might be a big seller....that or lose weight which is much easier said than done.

 

my best,

Morty

thanks Bogboy,

 

I was actually able to ski relatively short lines in the course (32-35 off sometimes better) at about 32 mph on the old triumph but found at my weight more success with the 69 than the 71 since the 71 didn't turn that quickly. So that is why I am asking if the new version of these skis turns any faster. I tweaked fins and bindings etc and finally settled on a Schnitz speed slot fin as the best so I did spend some time trying to tweak the ski....coaxing it into more performance than it probably was designed for.

 

Anybody out there skied on the old 71 triumph and the new 71 triumph yet? That would be the true test as for sure the new 69 should turn faster than the old 71

 

thanks,

Morty

Hi Matthew.

 

Yes above 32 mph forget the 71 inch, it just lifted itself out of the water. I have an older 71 triumph and I just found it did not turn with any kind of radius...sort of a super G kind of turn not a slalom turn using a snow skiing analogy

 

my best,

Morty

thanks Monsterair for bringing this up. I'm a big athletic guy myself and have been struggling with finding a ski that I can start on, will glide and will turn. Sounds nuts but there does not seem to be a ski that can do all of the above for 260 lbs.

 

Has anyone actually skied on the new 71 inch triumph and the old 71 inch triumph. The old one didn't turn (to quote AB I needed mooring lights for the ski since it was so big) so I was way over weight on the old 69 inch triumph to have something that sort of turned.

 

The question is how does the new triumph turn? Anybody out there with real experience? Marcus Brown (who I have a great deal of respect for) could make a 2x4 turn with his technique so can a mere mortal turn the new 71 inch triumph in anything less than a school bus radius

 

Thanks in advance,

Morty

 

Hello AB! I know you are reading this and chuckling

I predict Mr. Rossi, he has shown in Canada he can be a big event skier and he is tough...He's got my vote