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When you reply please state if you would what level you are and if you are one of those that attends or does not. Thanks
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Great stuff everyone. Keep it coming. Reason this is being asked is a small task force has been formed to look further into a d2. But we are also wanted to help solve the fact that only 47% of those qualified go to nationals. If we can solve that then we don't beed d2. So help us? Question. Would a prelim/finals format make it worth it for your time and expense? Would more weeks between regionals and Narionals do it. ( Labor Day weekend nationsls). Let's here some ideas?
Jeff Surdej.
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To answer the questions. We think we can fit about 600 pulls or 25 full teams in 2 days on 2 lakes, so that being said we are not sure where we will be but we hope to take more than 5 per team. If you graduated from a midwest school but did not ski we are leaving that door open right now, if we are not at full capacity then we will start taking those skiers as well. So far this event is turning out huge, looking forward to it.
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26 teams and over 100 skiers signed up in under 1 week of announcing it
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razor, are you having to pay the LOC a lake fee? I just hate to see that the putting up of judges in a class C be your tipping point of profit, can you put them up at a lake house or anything, is this for the Shane Dejong Fall Classic event? If so you should have about 15 teams there, 150-200 skiers at $40 a pop plus $5 to camp. $8,000 in revenue. Dont forget you can also charge a team fee around $25 which usually helps pay for the DJ or other nightly activities you are providing.
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razoross, I'm surprised to hear some of your issues. But glad to help in anyway the NCWSA and midwest can.
Looking at the officials directory I think your issue seems to be more of an IOWA issue rather than midwest or NCWSA. Iowa has 1 regular judges in the entire state and 2 senior, ouch. Neighboring illinois has 10 seniors and 7 regular. So technically you need every regular senior judge in your state to run a class C without going outside your state.
As for money making, from my experience ncwsa events are huge money makers, they tend to be much more profitable than awsa events in my experience even if you have to put up a few judges. You get a ton of entry fees in ncwsa, even though the fees are low, b/c its one round you tend to have 100 skiers if not more compared to 30 entry fees in AWSA event tournaments so your income should be much higher.
I think what has happended a little in the midwest is b/c it has grown so much we are now at 3-4 ncwsa events in 1 weekend in the midwest and this has spread out the volunteer officials, promo boats , etc and I feel your pain there but its a good problem to have.
We have talked about coming out with a class U for NCWSA but problem is most kids want to get their scores on rankings for AWSA and thus the class C.
Its just going to be a matter of getting the ncwsa skiers to get their ratings, they could easily become regular judges in 4 years. We have seena huge increase in this in years, last year we hosted a 2 lake 400 skier 800 pull conference and the entire thing was almost ran by ncwsa skiers and recent alumni, a lot are getting their ratings,
But I do feel its important to have that regular rating to run these events, they are not easy and you tend to run into many more issues, protest, and rule interpretations at the NCWSA level so I feel regular judges should be on site to help run.
jeff Surdej
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The always anticipated, never duplicated NCWSA Wildcard Selection Show is right around the corner! Tune in to www.ncwsa.com for the very exciting wildcard show. The show will be this Monday – October 7 at 7:00pm CST.
The show will kick-off by determining the two remaining schools who will get an invitation to the National Championships at Imperial Lakes in Imperial, California October 17-19.
The show will start with a simulated tournament of the top three teams in each region that did not make Nationals by placing top 5 at their own Regionals. Out of that tournament, the top 2 teams will get an automatic invite to the NCWSA National Championship.
Once the 22 team field is decided, each regional champion will get their automatic slot into Division 1. The remaining 18 teams will be thrown into the hopper for another simulated tournament to determine who are the top teams. 8 more teams will be placed into Division 1, making a total field of 12 (4 Regional Champions + 8 next at-large teams). The remaining 10 teams will make up Division 2.
This does indeed mean that a wildcard team, could be placed all the way up in Division 1, based on their full season performance.
The simulated tournaments will take the individual skier’s best scores of the fall season and put them all together.
It will be a great night with a lot of excitement. Please be sure to invite your family and friends to check it out.
Monday October 7, 2013
7:00pm CST
WWW.NCWSA.COM
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Anyone know the best place to rent golf carts for Nationals?
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OPEN MEN
# of times 39 will be ran Saturday in the 2 round qualifier
Over 15 (-11)
Under 15 (-11)
Top score Saturday in the 2 round qualifier
Over 4 @ 41 off (-11)
Under 4 @ 41 off (-11)
Open Mens diablo champ will be
Nate Smith (-20)
The field (-50)
Open Mens diablo champ will be
Jaime Beachhesne (+40)
Jason McClintock (+60)
Chris Parrish (+20)
Jon Travers (+30)
Will Asher (+30)
Aaron Larkin (+40)
Thomas DeGasperi (+20)
Nate Smith (-20)
Best score Saturday
Nate Smith -1 buoys (-11)
Chris Parrish +1 buoy (-11)
Best score Saturday
Will Asher -1.5 buoys (-11)
Aaron Larkin +1.5 buoy (-11)
Best score Saturday
Jon Travers -1.5 buoys (-11)
Jason MClintock +1.5 buoy (-11)
Best score Saturday
Daniel Odvarko -2 buoys (+15)
Carlos Lamadrid +2 buoy (-15)
Best score Saturday
Daniel Odvarko -3 buoys (+25)
Carlos Lamadrid +3 buoy (-25)
Best score Saturday
Tgas -2 buoys (-11)
Terry Winter +2 buoy (-11)
Best score Saturday-PUSH
Matteo Luzzeri -1 buoys (-11)
Martin Batalsky + buoy (-11)
Will someone run 41 off throughout the weekend
Yes (+80)
No (-70)
WOMEN
# of times 38 will be ran Saturday in the 2 round qualifier
Over 9 (-11)
Under 9 (-11)
Top score Saturday in the 2 round qualifier
Over .5 @ 41 off (-11)
Under .5 @ 41 off (-11)
Open womens diablo champ will be
Regina Jaquess (-50)
The field (+30)
Best score Saturday-PUSH
Regina Jaquess -5 buoys (-11)
Karina Nowlan + 5 buoys (-11)
Best score Saturday
Anais Amade even (-11)
Manon Costard even (-11)
Best score Saturday
Karen Truelove -1 (-11)
Breanne Dodd +1 (-11)
Best score Saturday
Kate Adrieansen -2 buoy (-11)
Makayla Haw +2 buoys (-11)
Best score Saturday
Delfina Cuglievan even (-11)
Genna Krueger even (-11)
Master Men
# of times 39 will be ran Saturday in the 2 round qualifier
Over 8 (-11)
Under 8 (-11)
Top score Saturday in the 2 round qualifier
Over 3 @ 41 off (-11)
Under 3 @ 41 off (-11)
Who will have the top seed heading into Sunday
Greg Badal (-20)
Chad Scott (-20)
Todd Ristoracelli (-20)
Dave Miller (+20)
Matt Brown (+30)
The MM finals will be the following matchup
Chad Scott and Greg Badal (+20)
Chad Scott and Todd Ristoricelli (+20)
Greg Badal and Todd Ristoricelli (+20)
Dave Miller and Greb Badal (+25)
Dave Miller and Todd Ristoricelli (+25)
Dave Miller and Chad Scott (+25)
Matt Brown and Chad Scott (+30)
Matt Brown and Greg Badal (+30)
Matt Brown and Todd Ristoricelli (+30)
Matt Brown and Dave Miller (+40)
Who will win MM finals
Greg Badal (-20)
Chad Scott (-20)
Todd Ristoracelli (-20)
Dave Miller (+20)
Matt Brown (+30)
Will someone run 41 off throughout the weekend
Yes (+100)
No (-120)
Best score Saturday
Greg Badal -1 buoy (-11)
Chad Scott +1 buoy (-11)
Best score Saturday
Matt Brown even (-11)
Dave Miller even (-11)
Best score Saturday-PUSH
Greg Badal even (-11)
Todd Ristoricelli even (-11)
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Running Order
Dave Goode
Rich Storlee
Steve Schroder
Kevin Bishop
Dave Miller
Seth Stisher
Chad Scott
Matt Brown
Todd Ristorcelli
Greg Badal
# of times 39 will be ran Saturday in the 2 round qualifier
Over 8 (-11)
Under 8 (-11)
Top score Saturday in the 2 round qualifier
Over 3 @ 41 off (-11)
Under 3 @ 41 off (-11)
Who will have the top seed heading into Sunday
Greg Badal (-20)
Chad Scott (-20)
Todd Ristoracelli (-20)
Dave Miller (+20)
Matt Brown (+30)
Payout to correctly pick the MM final four
Pick all 4 correctly (+30)
Pick all 4 correctly with correct seeding (+75)
The MM finals will be the following matchup
Chad Scott and Greg Badal (+20)
Chad Scott and Todd Ristoricelli (+20)
Greg Badal and Todd Ristoricelli (+20)
Dave Miller and Greb Badal (+25)
Dave Miller and Todd Ristoricelli (+25)
Dave Miller and Chad Scott (+25)
Matt Brown and Chad Scott (+30)
Matt Brown and Greg Badal (+30)
Matt Brown and Todd Ristoricelli (+30)
Matt Brown and Dave Miller (+40)
Who will win MM finals
Greg Badal (-20)
Chad Scott (-20)
Todd Ristoracelli (-20)
Dave Miller (+20)
Matt Brown (+30)
Will someone run 41 off throughout the weekend
Yes (+100)
No (-120)
Best score Saturday
Greg Badal -1 buoy (-11)
Chad Scott +1 buoy (-11)
Best score Saturday
Matt Brown even (-11)
Dave Miller even (-11)
Best score Saturday
Greg Badal even (-11)
Todd Ristoricelli even (-11)
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Running Order
Jennifer LaPoint
Alison Poulson
Taylor Woosley
Delfina Cuglievan
Geena Krueger
Claire Welter
Kate Adriaensen
Makayla Haw
Nicole Arthur
Anais Amade
Karina Nowlan
Manon Costard
April Coble Eller
Karen Truelove
Breanne Dodd
Regina Jaquess
# of times 38 will be ran Saturday in the 2 round qualifier
Over 9 (-11)
Under 9 (-11)
Top score Saturday in the 2 round qualifier
Over .5 @ 41 off (-11)
Under .5 @ 41 off (-11)
Payout to correctly pick the OW Elite 8
Pick all 8 correctly (+75)
Pick all 8 correctly with correct seeding (+200)
Payout to correctly pick the OW Final 4
Pick all 4 correctly (+50)
Payout to correctly pick the OW Finals
Pick all 2 correctly (+25)
Open womens diablo champ will be
Regina Jaquess (-50)
The field (+30)
Best score Saturday
Regina Jaquess -5 buoys (-11)
Karina Nowlan + 5 buoys (-11)
Best score Saturday
Anais Amade even (-11)
Manon Costard even (-11)
Best score Saturday
Karen Truelove even (-11)
Breanne Dodd even (-11)
Best score Saturday
Kate Adrieansen -2 buoy (-11)
Makayla Haw +2 buoys (-11)
Best score Saturday
Delfina Cuglievan even (-11)
Genna Krueger even (-11)
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http://www.waterskispreads.com/
Open Mens Slalom
Running Order
91.2 OM Marcus Brown
107.38 OM Dave Wingerter
107.5 OM Josh Badal
108.75 OM Danny Goldman
110.75 OM Brian Moore
112 OM Tyler Yager
112.5 OM Martin Bartalsky
35 OM Stephen Neveu
29 OM Jaime Beachhesne
28 OM Carlos Lamadrid
26 OM Matteo Luzzeri
25 OM Brian Detrick
16 OM Tom Brantley
14 OM Daniel Odvarko
13 OM Corey Vaughn
11 OM Nick Parsons
10 OM Terry Winter
9 OM Jason McClintock
8 OM Chris Parrish
7 OM Carlo Allais
6 OM Jon Travers
5 OM Will Asher
4 OM Aaron Larkin
2 OM Thomas DeGasperi
1 OM Nate Smith
# of times 39 will be ran Saturday in the 2 round qualifier
Over 15 (-11)
Under 15 (-11)
Top score Saturday in the 2 round qualifier
Over 4 @ 41 off (-11)
Under 4 @ 41 off (-11)
Payout to correctly pick the OM Elite 8
Pick all 8 correctly (+100)
Pick all 8 correctly with correct seeding (+250)
Payout to correctly pick the OM Final 4
Pick all 4 correctly (+75)
Payout to correctly pick the OM Finals
Pick all 2 correctly (+40)
Open Mens diablo champ will be
Nate Smith (-20)
The field (-50)
Open Mens diablo champ will be
Jaime Beachhesne (+40)
Jason McClintock (+60)
Chris Parrish (+20)
Jon Travers (+30)
Will Asher (+30)
Aaron Larkin (+40)
Thomas DeGasperi (+20)
Nate Smith (-20)
Best score Saturday
Nate Smith -1 buoys (-11)
Chris Parrish +1 buoy (-11)
Best score Saturday
Will Asher -1.5 buoys (-11)
Aaron Larkin +1.5 buoy (-11)
Best score Saturday
Jon Travers -1.5 buoys (-11)
Jason MClintock +1.5 buoy (-11)
Best score Saturday
Daniel Odavarko -3 buoys (-11)
Carlos Lamadrid +3 buoy (-11)
Best score Saturday
Tgas -1 buoys (-11)
Terry Winter +1 buoy (-11)
Best score Saturday
Matteo Luzzeri -1 buoys (-11)
Martin Batalsky + buoy (-11)
Will someone run 41 off throughout the weekend
Yes (+80)
No (-100)
Why didn't you attend Nationals (2013 or 2014)?
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