Old MS Accout Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 I sold my A1 last week and while waiting for my Elite to show up I am skiing on a Black Nats RS1 67 inch.I cant believe that more people out there are not liking this ski. It is great. My 2-4 on side is back. The ski moves without stopping. I took 3 sets on it and by the 3rd set, I was almost running 38 on the thing. I was a bit shallower and shorter then stock and the ski has great control. Sports car handling in a Caddy like ski.    ÂÂ
Baller ForrestGump Posted July 20, 2009 Baller Posted July 20, 2009 I agree, MS. The RS1 carries more speed from the apex to the hookup than any other ski I've been on. I'm hearing rumors that they're working on a new bevel profile for it that improves the turns even more while still carrying the speed, too. That said, I've got an Elite sitting here that I'm dying to try this week. Damn box is even top notch!
Old MS Accout Posted July 20, 2009 Author Posted July 20, 2009 I expect mine today, but I am liking skiing on the RS1 and its good to know that I have my next move planned if the Elite is not working.
Baller MrJones Posted July 20, 2009 Baller Posted July 20, 2009 Go ahead and post the RS-1 for sale. You won't be going back.sj
Old MS Accout Posted July 20, 2009 Author Posted July 20, 2009 Its FS, but its not mine. Its my ski I sold to Thager and it is great. Keep me updated on the #s for the elite. I am going with a 67.
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Old MS Accout Posted July 22, 2009 Author Posted July 22, 2009 I have been on the RS1 for 3 days now and I have had the best sets of the year. I am not letting this ski out of my sight until I know that the Elite will out perform it.   ÂÂ
Baller MrJones Posted July 22, 2009 Baller Posted July 22, 2009 MSIt seems I remember you on the RS-1 last summer? If you are going back to it now what has changed, you or the ski?sj
Old MS Accout Posted July 22, 2009 Author Posted July 22, 2009 Scot,I was on the white for a month and had a love hate relationship. I actually put up my practice PB with it. I sent it back for a stiffer ski and only took 4 rides on the new black that was sent. I was trying the A1 at the same time and made the decision to go to that A1. By late fall the A1 had the goo comming out of the bottom and TRS sent me a new A1. I never got the same feeling with the new A1 and was ready to sell everything and take up fishing until I rode the RS1 again. I am back. I think that the A1 had me working so hard to ski and when I got back on the RS1, it felt really easy to ski. I could do 4 sets and still have energy to ski another. I hope the Elite lights me up even better but until I know, I am sleeping with the RS1. My elbow pain is even going away.     ÂÂ
Baller ForrestGump Posted July 22, 2009 Baller Posted July 22, 2009 The two RS1's I have had required the least effort to go side to side of any ski I've ridden. Behind the boat, you think Damn, this things a rocket. My ski partner rides a Goode 9900 and he ran 38 on his 2nd set on the RS1. And that was on my 67" ski when he normally rides a 65.5(he's 155lbs soaking wet). For him at the time, he thought the RS1 carried too much speed off the ball and he was having a harder time adjusting to that coming off the Goode which slow'd down considerably more. Now he wants back on an RS1 or to try my Elite because he thinks the Goode isn't carrying enough speed for him at 34.
Old MS Accout Posted July 22, 2009 Author Posted July 22, 2009 I have been on skis that are as fast as the RS1, but the RS1 is a controlled speed. Its like driving a BMW at 90 compared to a Pinto at 90. I am pissed at myself for wasting 1/2 of my summer on the A1.   ÂÂ
Baller thager Posted July 22, 2009 Baller Posted July 22, 2009 I think I might want my RS-1 back now MS. Skied my Sixam today and ran 5 @ -32 but felt like I was skiing in glue compared to the RS-1. I'm hoping you don't like the Elite!!
Old MS Accout Posted July 22, 2009 Author Posted July 22, 2009 I am sleeping with it until I know what the Elite does for me. It would save me lots of money if the Elite stinks it up. ÂÂ
Baller MrJones Posted July 22, 2009 Baller Posted July 22, 2009 Glad you are skiing well Mark. Darwin is talking about having a fall tourney. You need to come down for it.  I agree with you guys about the cross course speed/angle of the RS-1. I rode one for a couple of weeks last summer and it got you wide and early. Only problem was what felt like a soft tip that I stuffed on toe side consistantly. A stiffer one would likely have been sweet. I also agree about the A1 being very hard on the body. I rode one this spring and it killed my back. I think there is something about the skis flat attitude in the water combined with that width that make it very hard to keep on edge effectively. sj
PJ Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 I can't afford to buy underwear as often as MS buys skis.
Old MS Accout Posted July 22, 2009 Author Posted July 22, 2009 PJ, I am not as bad as the La. test team. They need to get a seat on the Exchange. We only got 1 set in last night before it started to rain. Phil went from glass to whitecaps in 3 passes. What little hair he has was standing straight up with a lightning flash, so we quit. I dont know alot about rocker, but someone alot smarter then me said that the design on the A1 is not suited for cold water due to the rocker. Scot,I am comming to the 6 rounds in Sep and may do another week long tour that ends up over at Ski Watch the next weekend.  We will get back up to Minn and will have ice after that, so that will be it for the summer. ÂÂ
Baller ForrestGump Posted July 22, 2009 Baller Posted July 22, 2009 And I've heard that the flatter rocker on the RS1 is one reason it maintains speed and cross course angle so well. But then again, the only thing I know about rocker is that if granny rolls over my foot with hers, it hurts like a MOFO.
Baller jwr Posted July 22, 2009 Baller Posted July 22, 2009 MS, when you get to Pensacola I will trade you a ride on a beautiful Sixam SS for a ride on the elite. Sounds like a fair deal to me.ÂÂ
Old MS Accout Posted July 23, 2009 Author Posted July 23, 2009 If I am on the Elite, you can take a ride on it but I tried the SS and I dont need to try again. The 2 point is the only OB from that era that I would ski on.  ÂÂ
Baller jwr Posted July 23, 2009 Baller Posted July 23, 2009 Thanks, but I was just kidding. I would be too afraid I would ding it or something. I will probably just buy a used one after nationals.ÂÂ
Baller ForrestGump Posted July 23, 2009 Baller Posted July 23, 2009 I'm notorious for popping the handle on deep water starts in practice, after tearing that muscle in my shoulder last year. So that does scare me about skiing on the elite. With my $600 Senate C it's not big deal.
Old MS Accout Posted July 28, 2009 Author Posted July 28, 2009 The RS1 Rocks. Made the swap last night with Thager. He is now an elitest and I am rocking the RS1.
Baller thager Posted July 28, 2009 Baller Posted July 28, 2009 MS Running into 39 truly rocks! Couldn't even feel you back there. Being on the right ski for your skiing style makes a huge difference. Ask CP!! Now get back to work!!!
Old MS Accout Posted July 28, 2009 Author Posted July 28, 2009 I am going to add the BOS sticker tonight to make it offical.
35 in the bag Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 MS,I am triing an 67" RS1 tonight because the shop needs the S1 back, as someone else is interested in it. So, can you share your numbers with me....where it is rocking for you?John M
Old MS Accout Posted July 28, 2009 Author Posted July 28, 2009 Hey John,I have Approaches mounted at 29.25 front.I am at about .755 DFT, 6.850 tips and 2.50 on the depth.  That is basicly stock but a bit back on the DFT. I think Stock DFT is .760.I use the silver fin with the wing at 9.
Baller skidawg Posted July 28, 2009 Baller Posted July 28, 2009 did thager kiss u before he took u to town!ÂÂ
Baller thager Posted July 28, 2009 Baller Posted July 28, 2009 Both cheeks!! /vanillaforum/js/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-kiss.gifÂÂ
Baller ForrestGump Posted July 29, 2009 Baller Posted July 29, 2009 I loved the RS1 at 2.496, .755, 6.860 no wing. Skiing was effortless like that.
Baller thager Posted August 2, 2009 Baller Posted August 2, 2009 Theres a lot to be said for having the right skier style on the right ski. Yesterday morning once again ad nauseum MS ran into 39 in a very strong quartering head/tail on his RS-1. 38off seems to be just childs play now for this happy smiliing guy with a home haircut. Dog shears??? Making an occasional mistake doesn't even blow the run for him. On the A-1 we had to force feed anti-depressants. What the hell do you give a guy with the happies??? Exlax?? Asked for my RS-1 back and was banned from the boat!!!
Old MS Accout Posted August 2, 2009 Author Posted August 2, 2009 " RS1 Rocks " I have the BOS stickers on it and I am back loving life. It has been a tough ride since I sold my 07 Monza.
Baller JohnN Posted August 3, 2009 Baller Posted August 3, 2009 Guys who have ridden the RS-1,Spurred on by the good deals on MPDs out there, this past weekend I demoed an RS-1 since I couldn't find an MPD to try. I've got a couple of questions, though. At 5'9", 180, M4, 28-38 off, 34mph, should I be looking at the 67 or 68"? I demoed a white 67" RS-1, and loved the cross course speed and angle of the ski. It turns pretty good as well! Every now and then it would snap too hard on the turns (on side) or, wheelie (off side), and overall it just feels small. It did feel better at 32 and 35 than 28 if that helps. Stock fin settings from proskicoach.com, front boot (animals) at 29.25", which was one hole back of center. I felt similar things with the RS-1 boots as well. Second question, what does the MPD do differently than the RS-1? Is the RS-1 worth double the price? Last, I took a number of sets on the RS-1 boots. Loved the comfort of them. Easy to mount, and I didn't notice a huge transition from my Animals. The lateral control I felt was maybe a little more than Animals, but not too much. I found the amount my rear foot moved in the boot very distracting, and had it come up significantly in the turn a few times. Ulimately I decided to not go with the RS-1s because I just couldn't get them to be consistent. I had to loosen the bungees to get the liners back in, and then I must not have got them the same level of tightness. So, the boots seemed to feel different each set, and sometimes even in between passes. Not sure why, but it's more variables than I want to deal with.  Didn't have the opportunity to test the release function :-). Anyway, thanks in advance for any thoughts you have on the RS-1 or MPD skis!
Baller thager Posted August 3, 2009 Baller Posted August 3, 2009 John. I have a bud in WPB looking to sell his white 67" RS-1, let me know and I will find out what he wants for it. Am told the MPD is different, more of an Andy Mapple design ski that seeks angle with average speed . RS-1 more like a HO Monza and very fast. RS-1 has a small sweet spot. Not a problem if you are a quiet centered skier.  I had consistancy problems with my RS-1 boots until I quir tightening them down and left just snug.
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