Baller skiep Posted February 3, 2010 Baller Share Posted February 3, 2010 Just to let everyone know ( if you haven't herd) you can convert over if you have an excaliber engine. Mark Needum had Jody Seal convert his 2004 SN and i just got my 2006 back. Works like a champ. Keith Albritton P.S.- Oh and my cost was $4,200.00 because i have a Limited SN (new Gateway box needed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Keith,How much in parts if you if you were to do all yourself?   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted February 3, 2010 Baller Share Posted February 3, 2010 Not every Excaliber is convertible. I have an early 02 and am SOL. My engine did not have a Cam position sensor or crank position sensor (one or the other)so the cost is way beyond my means and I was going to do the work myself. On the plus side though my LE doesn't have a Gateway box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Crap. Send the kid to ULM on a waterski ticket. Get her a new 200 and the wife will buy off on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted February 3, 2010 Baller Share Posted February 3, 2010 Yeah, That could happen!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiep Posted February 3, 2010 Author Baller Share Posted February 3, 2010 Mark, I don't know what the breakdown is. I purchased the ZO for $1,600.00 + The can-buss cable and power wire. Probably around $2,100.00 for parts if i had to guess (Limited needs new gatway box) and 500.00 for install will be close. Keep in mind one day someone may need my old parts (ECM,SG etc,) Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Thanks Keith. There are some good deals out there on 2005/06 Nautiques and that could get me back in a boat of my own. Our club just bought an 08 196 but there is nothing like having your own boat. See you in Oct unless it may be sooner.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller teammalibu Posted February 3, 2010 Baller Share Posted February 3, 2010 Ill sell my zero off for 34k and it comes wrapped in a 2008 LXI low hours 318-230-1133 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GMC Posted February 4, 2010 Baller Share Posted February 4, 2010 Hey MS I have an 05 Nautique I want to sell... What's a "good deal"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 GMC, For me or you? I wont be ready for any move like that for a few months,but my guess is that your boat just took on some additional value.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GMC Posted February 4, 2010 Baller Share Posted February 4, 2010 Good point! I haven't officially put mine on the market yet but it's my intent to sell it this spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Just put ZO in your boat and keep it. Are you going to a 200? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GMC Posted February 5, 2010 Baller Share Posted February 5, 2010 No. I live on a lake that is totally unskiable. It sits in the lift all the time while I drive across town to ski. I put 6-8 hours on it each of the last two years - just early season drysuit skiing and then summertime booze cruising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaredH20 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Hi I have an 2006 model ski nautique 206, i wish to upgrade to Zero Off but am not sure if it's possible with my boat. My Perfect Pass module is "DBW04843", the serial number of the boat is "CTC62019G506" Kind Regards Jared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted August 16, 2010 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2010 JaredFish, Talk to Tim White at inboardsolutions. Tim was able to determine if my Excaliber was upgradable, gave me a price and I did the upgrade. PP module has no effect on ZO install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaredH20 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 thager, inboardsolutions.com has no website?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted August 16, 2010 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2010 Sorry about that I just google it. The website is www.inboardsolutionsllc.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaredH20 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Thanks, any idea on cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted August 16, 2010 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2010 Mine was 3K but the 2002 196 did not have a gateway to change out so an 06 could be more. Talk to Tim! He's a straight shooter. Also you will be able to sell your PP to help with cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaredH20 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 He Said i'm looking @ about $4192.74, unfortunately it's out of my price range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguylikeshark Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 You know I am wondering if the best way to emulate ZO in the really older boats is to go back to the PP switch and just use manual GPS for setting up. Example - We skied today and i plugged in a Garmin GPS. My bud was pulling down the boat 3 to 4 km during the pull and it would recover at the ball. I have a PP Switch, set pretty soft (I think) so I probably can tune that to pile on more throttle to maintain speed and keep the GPS constant. This is what Zero Huff does of course to maintain actual speed (v.s. RPM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted September 1, 2010 Supporting Member Share Posted September 1, 2010 A friend in PA swears by using the switch to "emulate" ZO with his PP boat. Personally now that I've found my setting (B1) and adapted my technique, I can't even tell the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguylikeshark Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 We did this today Kx+ and Px 15 or 20 with the switch. To "gas" more I could use a higher Px. Felt very Zo-ish to me. BTW Any control algo that is tuned for tight control will experience some overshoot beyond the setpoint (e.g 34.2). Unless it's what we call model-based then control overshoot is more contained. To maintain boat "speed" you have to work the throttle pretty hard depending on the skier. Today I had a tech look into developing Laptop based software/hardware for a GPS Slalom Pass Tracker - something that collects the Speed and RPM between the 55's or the gates, then plots it. This way we'll be able to measure boat performance and get one boat close to another in terms of response. ZO or PP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted September 2, 2010 Supporting Member Share Posted September 2, 2010 I might be interested in that data if it becomes available. My interest is mainly in quantifying what ABC and 123 really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted September 2, 2010 Baller Share Posted September 2, 2010 That would be very useful data! I emulate with KX- PX 10 and run the baseline down so my skier weight is 50 to 100 lbs higher than actual. On ZO I ski C3.Very interesting to compare CC, MC and Malibu (and Centurion?). Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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