Baller jjackkrash Posted March 15, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 15, 2011 I need to get speed control for an older mechanical-throttle boat. There are a lot of used Stargazer systems out there for DBW boats. Can these systems be made to work for a mechanical throttle with the purchase of another piece of hardware, or are they totally useless for a mechanical throttle? If so, what additional piece of hardware do I need? Thanks in advance, Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Obermeier Posted March 15, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 15, 2011 I'm pretty sure Jack that the DBW and mechanical throttle versions of SG are completely different setups. One won't work for the other and vice versa. If you could find a used PP Classic setup you could add SG to that for around $500 I believe. Might save a few bucks over buying the entire thing new.Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted March 15, 2011 Baller_ Share Posted March 15, 2011 I put PP on my 92 MC in back in 1997, and updated it every year, ending up with SG before selling it last year. A throttle cable boat that worked well with SG as long as the driver was careful not to overshoot on starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted March 16, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 16, 2011 dbw boxes won't work for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east tx skier Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 If you find a multiline gauge used, it will work. Obviously, the magnet smart timer will work. The DBW module will not work, nor will the wiring harness for a DBW. Obviously, throttle linkage isn't part of the DBW package and is somewhat boat brand specific as to length IIRC. The reason you don't see too many mechanical SG packages out there is because those boats aren't updating to ZO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted March 16, 2011 Author Baller Share Posted March 16, 2011 Thanks guys. E.Tx.Skier, so, because I have am American Skier, the throttle linkage on a used unit might not work? It seems like the length from the hammer to the engine on a mid-mounted boat would be pretty standard. Shoot, I am thinking I'll just call perfect pass and pay the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lakeaustinskier Posted March 16, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 16, 2011 Call Tim White at 334-301-2729. He just helped me convert my 1998 205 Mastercraft LT1 to PP Stargazer. I paid a little less than going directly through PP and Tim was able to give me some good advice about the conversion. For example Tim recommended that I go with the Wake Edition (and not 3 event) since the LT1 doesn't always like Stargazer at low speeds. You cannot use a DBW system for a non DBW boat. Also, the comment by Richard about too much throttle at the start is accurate. I've started my season two weeks ago and the speed just didn't feel "right" Like any good skier I immediately blamed my wife for the bad speeds :) but we finally figured out that she needed to run the throttle up slower - and that fixed the problem. I'll get my 2007 196 back next week after converting to ZO from Stargazer so we'll see how that conversion feels................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted March 24, 2011 Author Baller Share Posted March 24, 2011 I dropped the American Skier in the water at Broho last night for a water test and it ran like a champ so i called Tim White this morning and the Stargazer is on its way. I am pretty stoked to get back on the water. Thanks for the input fellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted March 24, 2011 Baller_ Share Posted March 24, 2011 jjack - let me know when you'll be at the Broho this weekend, email richard@burienautorepair.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east tx skier Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 E.Tx.Skier, so, because I have am American Skier, the throttle linkage on a used unit might not work? It seems like the length from the hammer to the engine on a mid-mounted boat would be pretty standard. Shoot, I am thinking I'll just call perfect pass and pay the money.[\i] This info is a little late, but I recall a few brands needing different cable lengths. I have had cables bind up if they weren't perfectly level at the linkage. So there may be pretty precise measurements involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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