Terry Winter at quarter speed

[Horton]

[Horton]

OK Ballers,

 

What do you think? If this video gets a lot of play I am thinking about trying to do the same thing with other pro skiers.

[Marco]

I thought it was great. At 1/4 speed, it is a lot easier to see what is going on than at full speed. I'd love to see other pros at 1/4 speed.

 

I was surprised how TW never got much wider than the buoy line at all lengths, finished well downcourse from the ball, built great angle from the finish of the turn to the whitewash, and was early and waiting on the next buoy. A lot easier to see when slowed down.

 

Way cool!

[Horton]

Everyone should note that this was TWs first ride in a few weeks. As awesome as this vid is TW can ski even better.

[bishop8950]

I get to watch him ski from time to time. When he is on, it looks perfect. When I see it I feel a mix of being inspired and wanting to quit at the same time. I almost prefer to watch this video to see him make adjustments. I wish I could think that fast on the water and adjust like he can.

KB

[skibug]

The one distinct thing I notice (and have before with TW) is that on his off side, he pulls his off hand and shoulder way back (good for countering on off side); but, then he comes in way over the top when he comes back to the handle. On his good side his hand goes to his hip and the reach back to the handle is short and acroos the body, not over the top.

 

The reason I comment on this is because I am always trying to keep my off arm down (not letting it flail around) and reach from the hip, both sides. My question is; is it alright to adopt this technique as long as you do it with rythm and purpose? I am thinking it would be easier to adopt (adapt) this technique versus always having to think about putting my hand in my pocket.

[6balls]

Do it, John, more skiers at 1/4 speed.

Can't believe how low TW's butt gets to the ski and how much knee bend he has at the second wash going to 1,3,5. Great skier, but my stiff old body needs another style to emulate!

[ForrestGump]

One thing I notice is that he initiates the transition from pulling edge to his outbound edge REALLY early. Not saying he changes edge before centerline but he starts the process and advances the ski before centerline.

[DW]

Excellent video, like the 1/4 speed.

[Wish]

I'd pay money to have a collection (DVD) of pro guys and gals at that speed. It was interesting to watch and be able to bring up all the points brought up on this site re technique.

[wtrskii3156]

Awesome video. Horton, what was the second song?

 

[Horton]

@Wish This is one of my ideas for next year. If it really adds value to the site and I can get it done with out spending a $1,000,000.00 I am going to try to do it as much as possible.

 

@wtrskii3156 No idea. Ryan did that.

[itch2ski]

Awesome video! Love that I can actually study his form at this speed. Would be great to see other skiers styles.

 

New to the ski scene and not to get off topic, but I don't know the difference between "west coast" slalom and other slalom styles. Is Terry Winter "west coast"?

[Klundell]

Love it! @shaneH I am convinced that what you are talking about is the secret to skiing shortline. I'm not exactly sure how to execute it but the pros get so much work done between white water and center of the wake and they start the edge change process earlier than everybody else.

[Klundell]

Keep them coming!

[Not_The_Pug]

Great Video, would like to see more.

 

Also lucky that we have Terry right here in Sacramento. Great guy to ski with.

[Dirt]

Great video. I would like to see a couple 34 mph skiers.

[londonskier]

Quarter speed is fantastic. You can see TW move those feet through the edge change and the way he gets the ski way under the line before loading after the ball. More please JH. (skiid today at cold Princes club London 60 deg and nursing a foot injury!!)

[Kelvin]

What camera/settings/editing software were used for this video?

[Horton]

@Kelvin no idea. I actually paid Ryan Sawyer to do this. BOS is growing up when I am hiring out work.

@Dirt Now that you mention it - I may see if I can do the same with Greg B. Wish the Brown Bros were not so far north.

[Kelvin]

Well, now that you are paying - who would you like to see from the SCR?

[Horton]

@Kelvin I am not paying much and only when I have to. WS

 

SCR? T$, Chad, Ward, Jones, Leach, KFennell, Butterfield, the list goes on.

 

I would pay the most for Kfennell but it would have to be 1/8th speed.

[DavidP]

Since TW does a one handed gate and RFF, how about someone who is LFF and has a two handed gate.

[6balls]

Dirt, yes, some 34 mph skiers. The 36 'ers change edge a bit earlier it seems and gosh darn it I don't ski that fast anymore (well, not very often).

[TWB]

Terry has a great description of where he's trying to build speed and accomplish edge change on the home page of his website. He's one of my favorite skiers to watch. I skied with him last year and tried to again last week but he wasn't available the day I was in Sacramento. It makes perfect sense, but not so easy to accomplish. I've studied a lot of his video and agree he skis better, but this is one of the best videos I've seen of him.

[fu_man]

Lots to learn from this. I'd love to see more too. I also agree with 6balls...TW's knees are way bent at 2nd wake going to 1,3,5. Would love to see other styles at this speed.

[disland]

Great stuff, get some jumpers too

[jdarwin]

34mph is SO much different than 36. A good example would be Ward. Nobody moves a ski out and carves better. And, one of his "signature" 39's would be a hoot at 1/4 speed.

[D-Law]

If that guy was 5 inches taller he would be re-writing the record book.

[tsixam]

Great video! Very interesting and helpful. I would love to see Will Asher at ¼ speed too.

Tsixam

 

[Horton]

Funny you should say that.... I am trying to line that up.

[tsixam]

Will is one of the smoothest skiers. His is really turning into his pull. It seems to be one smooth fluid motion with no slack. I would like to be able to copy that!

Tsixam

 

[jipster43]

I'd like to see Marc Shaw - a shorter 34mph skier and sooo smooth.

[jipster43]

I'd like to see Marc Shaw - a shorter 34mph skier and sooo smooth.

[Wish]

He keeps the ski sooo far out infront of him.

[Wish]

He keeps the ski sooo far out infront of him.

[6balls]

I'd fall right out the back if I attempted that style. Takes a special skill set.

[6balls]

I'd fall right out the back if I attempted that style. Takes a special skill set.

[skihart]

Great vid. Of the 700 or so views in the last day or so, I probably was responsible for at least 25 or so myself...lol. That's the right be speed to see the details like edge changes and handle control, head position etc. It makes me want to get back out on the water and ski better. How about Karina Nowlan? Great form for 34mph.

[skihart]

Great vid. Of the 700 or so views in the last day or so, I probably was responsible for at least 25 or so myself...lol. That's the right be speed to see the details like edge changes and handle control, head position etc. It makes me want to get back out on the water and ski better. How about Karina Nowlan? Great form for 34mph.

[bobuna]

Such a useful tool to use when thinking and preparing for next season. it really allows you to better understand all of the terms and techniques we're supposed to use. his counter-rotation is amazing. Definitely would pay for a library of male and female pros to study and compare.

[bobuna]

Such a useful tool to use when thinking and preparing for next season. it really allows you to better understand all of the terms and techniques we're supposed to use. his counter-rotation is amazing. Definitely would pay for a library of male and female pros to study and compare.

[Horton]

Bump for Lieutenant Dan

[auskier]

I was doing some random ski browsing earlier and ended up on the D3 website. It says whisper is on a 64" X7. Is this true? Yes, he is no 6'5" 190lb giant, but 64" seems short!

[Horton]

36 mph and he is pretty light. It could be a typo but seems possible

[Horton]

bump

[Terry Winter]

I always rode a 65” X7. I have a ton of new videos on my website since this video was done. I have almost every line length and at every speed if you want to watch 32 or 34 mph with rope shortening. I am also trying to refine the technique that I’m using, so hopefully it’s a little better than this video.

[Fraser]

TW's website is great and he has a ton of video uploaded. The way he zooms in, stops & starts the skier, and compares his skiing or others (lot's of Nate on there), is awesome.

[Jaypro]

I subscribed to @twhisper site and I have gotten a ton of info. Terry put some overhead drone video of some passes that I found really useful. I watched all of the videos! It's a great off season viewing.

[T_C]

trainingwithterrywinter.com is the place to go to see slow mo and all speed and line lengths. Well worth the price of admission.