Baller Ilivetoski Posted July 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2012 So I have been running 28 off alot lately. Very consitant. I feel like I am making my turns too hard, as in I am coming in, and absolutly killing the turn. Much more then needed. At 28 I can get away with it but at 32 its killing me. I have had some really good looks at running it but ruin it by overturning either 1 or 2 usually. So that said, here is the stupid question of the year, how do you not kill a turn? I have been stuck on this almost default setting of killing my turns that I have literally forgotten how to take a nice predictable turn. Oh one more thing, I am taking these huge monster turns when im super early... Crew at Cobles said that I am making turns that I have 30 ft of room to make and im acting like I have 5 ft of room to make these turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted July 12, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted July 12, 2012 Is it you or the ski setting? You can take some of the aggression out by making the ski take a longer, smoother arc. Try shortening the DFT. Overturning both sides at the very start of the pass may be a ski setting thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted July 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2012 I posted this under a previous subject but thought it might apply here also !!! Something that may help you from over-rotating is vision, and where you look. Something I have to work on a lot with only one good eye. I start after the transition, while setting up my counter, looking down the buoy line. Key here is keeping the head and shoulders level, with the counter being a straight extension of the rope. Do not stare at the buoy as you will drop your head. You can see it fine looking down course on your way to the apex. The hard part is coming off the apex at the start of the turn. You want to keep a rather still upper body, with head and shoulders level through the turn. Keep looking down course. If you turn your head to get a sneak peak of where you will be going, you will drop the inside shoulder and over-rotate. Also, if you were setup correctly at the apex, with full extension, countered, head and shoulders level, and looking down course. DO NOT pull in on the handle and rotate the upper body. Rather, slide the hip to the handle while looking down course. This will do THREE major things for you. One: Keep you from over-rotating. TWO: Set you up for a open to the boat leveraged position. Three: Not let ZO know your there, so you can acquire your leveraged position in preparation for the oncoming load. Hope this helps somewhat.....Big E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ilivetoski Posted July 12, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted July 12, 2012 Thanks, I will try messing around with where I look and if that dosent work ill do some work on the fin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted July 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2012 Good comments from Ed. Some other possibilities: You may try simply staying more upright off the water...don't let yourself get so close in the lean or the turn (this will help at 35 and 38 as well). Got my ski partner doing this yesterday and his 32's suddenly became effortless. You may try reaching a little higher. You may try looking ahead nose of the boat at the next buoy as your turn finishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Live2ski Posted July 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2012 Hi - it does seem that we are seeking the same thing! I would highly recommend free skiing for proving to yourself that you can turn without nailing it and generally getting your mojo back. I posted a video, after the requests for one, showing a free ski pass and the overturning bouy pass - if this is what you're doing and you fix it - let me know! I'm going to work on the vision thing but also think a lot of it is what is happening well before the turn and for me it's all about the gate - once you start turning hard and loading early you're stuck that way for the whole pass. Need to learn how to coast round one :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jordan Posted July 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2012 A coach once told me, "we want station wagon turns and ferrari pulls...not the other way around" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted July 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2012 @Jordan, I know you are right, but a ferrari (or ducati) turn just feels so good once in a while if you can find one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted July 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2012 So does pulling the pylon out of the boat...but it ain't right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ilivetoski Posted July 13, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted July 13, 2012 I feel like i am giving my pulls alot, but when i come up and kill so much speed in that turn that I could be carrying into my pull, then it takes me longer to accelerate etc etc you guys see where that is going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted July 13, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2012 @6balls Pull the pylon out of the boat you probably won't live2ski! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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