Klundell Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Just saw that I drew the Mastercraft for Western Regionals. I haven't skied behind one in years what can you guys tell me about the pull? ZO settings? Etc? I'm not particularly picky when it comes to boats but thought I would ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T8skier Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I ski with friends that has each of the promo boats. I use the same settings sn200 and mc. The wake is a little firmer. Ran my tourney PB 2@39 behind MC. Don't even think about it. Not worth worring about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted July 25, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 25, 2012 At your lines no issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted July 25, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 25, 2012 Just wear jump skis. You'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 26, 2012 Administrators Share Posted July 26, 2012 It is fine. Just go ski. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted July 26, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 26, 2012 @Klundell years? What do you do normally at tournaments when you get one? Not ski? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmiller3536 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 @Klundell I am in the same group and the only thing I can say is don't take the 28 for granted. For some reason I always have to scrap out my opener at 28 but then everything seems to settle in at 32 and shorter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 26, 2012 Administrators Share Posted July 26, 2012 You guys talk like MC is an off brand. Yes there are a few out there with hard wakes at 28 but seriously guys it is fine. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted July 26, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted July 26, 2012 How about for the kids, slow speeds and long liners? Junk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walleye Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 MS, Gotta have a beer with ya lol @ MWR. B-1, G-1 slalom lake I will be watchin the boy & girl. It will be close to beer 30 when they ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted July 27, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted July 27, 2012 @walleye Perfect. Team beer will be on fire all weekend. Look us up on east lake dock side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klundell Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 @mattp we just don't have a mc in UT or ID that pulls tournaments. I wasn't hating on MC just wanted some info from the ballers. It treated me well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigtex2011 Posted July 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 30, 2012 mastercraft killed m4 at sc regionals. at least 5 otf's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 30, 2012 Administrators Share Posted July 30, 2012 @bigtex2011 Really? Guys in good shape went OTF? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Sullivan Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Yeah, blame the boat. My wife skied behind our 197 and then the TXi this weekend. She is just learning to run the course at 26 mph. She couldn't tell a difference and I couldn't visibly see any change. I then pulled a M6 skier, 32 mph from 28 up through 38 off. He can't feel any difference in my wake vs. his Txi. I'll admit that the wake at 15 and 22 is harder, but to say it caused an OTF for some M4 skiers is nothing more than an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigtex2011 Posted July 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 30, 2012 i'm not talking about your 197...i'm talking about the one at scr... ...it was shocking..if you weren't there than how would you know, i'm glad to hear your 197 is so awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jimbrake Posted July 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 30, 2012 I actually like the slightly firmer feel of the MC pull the past two years compared to the 200. I'm a little leary when I get a 200 these days because some of them feel overly soft. MC wake is a little firmer, too, but not a big deal. My B2 son had MC for the regionals and he said he felt the wake a bit, but it didn't affect his skiing. He's not skiing slower than 34 anymore though. To be fair, when he was at slower speeds he was more affected. Can't imagine the boat causing the OTFs on good skiers though unless there was a ZO issue going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigtex2011 Posted July 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 30, 2012 sorry horton, i didnt see your post,3 big dawgers almost in a row. the most famous big dawg was driving. i'm not bashing mc in particular, but i've been skiing a long ass time and it was unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 30, 2012 Administrators Share Posted July 30, 2012 @bigtex2011 Ok I believe you. just hate to hear it Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigtex2011 Posted July 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 30, 2012 the only thing thing i can think of is the site was shallow and it affected the mc more the the others..i ran 4@38 early this year behind one, that's about my tourney average. i wont go on keep this fire burning. heck, i think they look awesome, and overall ski pretty decent. but it was a site to see for sure.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Sullivan Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 bigtex2011since you came on a public forum and bashed a boat, I figured challenging your theory about the boat causing the OTF of some top level skiers was fair game. Forgive me if I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted July 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 30, 2012 I skied behind the MC, Nautique and TXI in back to back rounds two weeks ago and the wake on the MC is significantly harder to me than the other two boats. It doesn't impact my score at all but it does affect kids. At Nationals I saw that all slalom practice is being pulled by Nautique that is an issue for Boys 2 skiers that have drawn MC for slalom. That said if I was buying a new boat I would probably buy a MC because I like the trick wake and would prefer to practice behind the harder slalom wake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted July 31, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2012 I skied a good one and a pig this year. Just depends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted July 31, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2012 As I stated in a post about 2-3 weeks ago, it seems that MC is extremely sensitive to weight load (crew + fuel). Heavy load = big wake, more so than SN or Malibu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jdarwin Posted July 31, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2012 To be fair - two of the upper M4 seeds at SCR fell at 1 ball or right afterward (velcro pre-release) so I don't think the boat played a part in that. I skied in that group and thought the boat felt fine. I simply one-fingered two ball at 35-off and couldn't make it to 4 in order to re-grip. That's not an issue with the boat IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JoeMac Posted July 31, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2012 I was #2 seed and my velcro was more of an issue than the boat. Plus the world record driver Chad Scott was driving. He makes any boat feel great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JoeMac Posted July 31, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2012 Not enough. And it was over a year old or maybe 2. 2 strips on each side. clear velcro on ski and black velcro on plate. I will either change velcro once a year or place a plate on ski that does not come off. Daughter just got the new Nano 1 and it came with inserts. Pretty cool looking ski. She likes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjirsa Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 i ski 99.9% behind a 196 with ZO. So, all y'all's boats suck compared to that. Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JoeMac Posted August 2, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 2, 2012 Orange solvent is great for removing adhesive residue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 I bought a 197 this year the wake and zero off surge is very sensitive to crew weight. over 450 to 500 lbs is noticeable over 600 is OMG. My old 196 wasn't as bad as long as you balanced the weight side to side. but I found myself lost at tournaments with the wrong boat draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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