kfennell Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 I have some ideas that I would like to discuss with this person or group? Who will be providing the video for the web stream? Who will be in charge there? I guess the same thing for the rest of nationals, is there a person who comes in or does someone from the host site do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bishop8950 Posted February 8, 2014 Baller Share Posted February 8, 2014 The guys at webcast-tv have done the BigDawg finals in the past. Check with Greg Davis on your ideas. There was no video of Nats that I am aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted February 8, 2014 Baller Share Posted February 8, 2014 @gregdavis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted February 8, 2014 Baller Share Posted February 8, 2014 @kfennell Video for nationals would be up to the host site. I guess you're nominated to take care of it, now. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 Might be possible, might also be a lack of internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 8, 2014 Administrators Share Posted February 8, 2014 lack of Internet this is the number one reason why webcasting is a great idea that just can't seem to work. Honestly when it does work the number of people watching compared to the cost makes it a questionable proposition. I'm not against it in fact I wish it would work but historically it is a boondoggle Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 Its just because all the sites are not in cities. If we were even 1 mile in any direction you could easily get internet to support it. I will be checking with the local ISP to see if they will give me a dedicated connection during the tournament, but I don't know if it will be possible. The only internet here is ATT 4g and wireless from a tower a mile away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 I have solved the wireless from the boat problem at least. Perfect stable 480p video. At least I think. It works in the car, etc It's too cold to go test from the water :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 Once we get some testing done here I will be happy to share the wealth. Even better is that we have a working prototype of a remote control stabilized camera that you could mount to the windshield and follow the skiier perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 Interesting fact, I think I am the youngest person in the country with a Ham radio licence by about 15 years now (needed it for the video) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 Anyone have an email or phone number for greg davis? Would people mind "live" video from the event if it was delayed by a skiier but in 720p 60 fps? or something else that will capture high speed well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 I wonder what the logistics of that would be having to swap cards every skiier, then get the card in whatever is playing the video. I guess just cut back and forth to the image of the crowds or something, but that gets out of my area of expertise. Thanks for the contact info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 Yeah would obviously not work for all of nationals, I was thinking just the big dawg finals. There is no consumer way to send HD from the boat really, 480p would be your l imit. But it would be very set it and forget it. Running off the boats battery, it would just need setup in the morning and there would be a live view from that boat all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 Here is some prototype equipment. Stabilized follow mode is working on the camera and the video uplink works perfect in SD. http://i.imgur.com/uhekDAu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/JmlwxYo.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted February 8, 2014 Baller Share Posted February 8, 2014 Remember @kfennell that we never use only one boat so "set it and forget it" is tough. Unless you have multiple packages it will need to be swappable fairly easily. Also two lakes for slalom almost all the time and another lake for trick/jump. At one point the BD is also skiing on the fourth lake while the other three are active. Except for tricks (and I'd guess the BD) don't anticipate having more than one boat on a lake pulling skiers. That said I haven't discuss that with the CD or others. Just a few thoughts. Check you PM @kfennell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 Yeah I was thinking over the multiple boat problem and I don't have a teriffic idea to solve it. The transmitter and stabilization setups cost $400 each plus a gopro hero 3+ add a few hundred if you wanted to use something like a Nex5 with zoom, or add $1k for a DSLR. Gets expensive to have that setup in multiple boats ;) Moving the setup between boats would be one clamp and jumper cables to the battery but I am sure that trying to do that fast in a tournament will result in something getting broke, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted February 9, 2014 Baller Share Posted February 9, 2014 Kevin, your heart is in the right place, but it's not that simple. We can discuss live in more detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Yeah I can see there are lots of catches to live video. This was more directed at my other idea and wanting to get in touch with Greg. Did anyone see slopestyle skiing tonight? Did you see that it was being filmed with a drone carrying a DSLR on a gimbal, just like what I have here :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Here is a video we took tonight. This is the first video we ever took. GP Hero 3+ on a brushless gimbal being controlled by a camera operator on shore. Holding the gimbal on a 1.5" PVC pipe that we flattened the end and bent it to shape. Camera will get more stable with some tuning and keeping it out of the wind better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted February 9, 2014 Baller Share Posted February 9, 2014 Great quality video @kfennell! Was that off the card or was that broadcast to shore wireless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 that was off the card. it was also broadcasted to shore but just a high quality 480p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 thats how the operator controlled the camera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 hmm.I dont have a dvr yet but I imagine there is a way I can figure this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Ordered a capture card and splitter... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 Here is some more video from tonight. Got it a bunch more stable today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Someone get me one of these and we can get live HD! http://www.paralinx.net/store/tomahawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Maybe by then they will be available to rent for $800 for the week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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