Baller gregy Posted October 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2014 The best teams are going to recruit the best players period. I do think there should be a distinction between amateur and professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted October 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2014 ULM has pushed other schools to step up I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jcamp Posted October 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2014 Be careful about pushing for "amateurs only" or "no pros" as every kid who got 25% off a ski or a free handle one time would be ruled ineligible under an NCAA-like system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted October 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2014 @Horton how is recruiting international skiers going to grow the sport here? @webbdawg99 you forgot that Adam Pickos is also part of the ULM men's team. Can you imagine what college football or basketball would look like if it was run like skiing??? I do like what FSC is doing. Everyone skis all three events. The coach told me he could not afford the travel expense to take single event skiers to last years nationals on the west coast. Fun to see KC Wilson put on a trick ski and a pair of jumpers. KC is a VERY accomplished overall skier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted October 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2014 FSC* It's a college. Not to be confused with Florida State University which currently does not have a ski team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jipster43 Posted October 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2014 It seems to me that ULM has built the program and support that we would like given to all schools (and pros!). I don't see how artificially limiting their success will help other schools fund their own. If anything I would think it could help the argument for other universities to increase the amount they spend on water skiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BK Posted October 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2014 @webbdawg99 If it were the schools with huge endowments funding the scholarships, I might agree with regulating it. But it's not. The fact is there are many programs out there that have the potential for funding scholarships. Start there. Or wherever you want. Volunteering is commendable but it'll take funding (tax deductible, by the way) scholarships to build up programs. ULM won, but not by much. 12830 over ULL at 12415. Would we be having this conversation if ULL won? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted October 22, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2014 @bk probably not. If ULL or anyone else has won, Horton would not have started this thread. Lol I expect to see a changing of the guard in a year or two. Someone with some deep pockets will try to put a stop to it. Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 22, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted October 22, 2014 @ntx if ULM had not won we would be talking about how the title was stolen by cheaters. Those bastard cheating cheating Ragin Cajuns cheaters! @luzz it is only a joke. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted October 22, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2014 Good to see there aren't any strong opinions on this site! @webbdawg99 I hope to see you at all stars in 2015! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted October 22, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2014 @Horton :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted October 22, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2014 @Horton I heard it is a BS degree!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 22, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted October 22, 2014 @thager more BS than you realize Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerR Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 @horton admit the truth man, you really got a clown degree, didn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted October 22, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2014 At least Horton's reply had correct spelling. Punctuation and proper use of capital letters - well we are talking ULM. @MattP stops proofreading at the first typo - big mistake here. @Than_Bogan is allowed grammar issues because his MIT numbers are spot on. Note that Stanford was part of the inaugural WICWSC college waterski conference - this is all my fault. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 22, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted October 22, 2014 meh. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Luzz Posted October 22, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2014 @Horton it's a cheap joke but ya... good job ULM. Their win this year clearly shows that depth is more than individual victories when it comes to winning Nationals. and @MattP, FSU doesn't not have a ski team anymore... but there's someone there who may take the initiative and start it again..! I briefly read the previous posts about performance and winning. As a former collegiate skier with ambitions to one day ski the Pro Tour, I can say that Collegiate skiing is much more than the final placement at Nationals. It's pure fun! Collegiate Nationals truly represent a raw enjoyment for the sport of water skiing that sadly I do not see anywhere else. Thibault put it very nicely last week: "Everyone here is smiling and skiing against each other at the same time. When do you see that apart from Collegiate Nationals?!" Ski coach at Jolly Ski, Organizer of the San Gervasio Pro Am (2023 Promo and others), Co-Organizer of the Jolly Clinics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted October 22, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2014 @ntx The list I posted was a copy and paste from the "press release" regarding ULM's victory. Stinks that they left Adam off that list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted October 22, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2014 @Luzz I was hoping you were going to pick up on that comment! It would be great to add another team to the Eastern Region! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted October 22, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2014 @jcamp collegiate athletes can get equipment now there was a revision to the amateur rules for collegiate athletes a few years ago. I know golfers who got several thousand dollars worth of free equipment that they get to keep. I am not sure what if anything the limit is but 25% off a ski or a free handle doesn't put their ability to compete collegiately at risk. Of course Dave Goode (or any other owner of a ski mfg) buying them dinner would which just highlights how silly the NCAA system can be at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RazorRoss3 Posted October 22, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2014 Where would the line be drawn? I know a few D3 sponsored skiers who while they are very good, I wouldn't call professional. Here in the Midwest we have Jenny Kaldor who had been on the nationals podium more times than not but isn't exactly competing with Regina. So we have a sponsored skier, highly competitive in the nation, but isn't skiing o scholarship. My point is the line is very blurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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