Administrators Horton Posted October 26, 2014 Administrators Share Posted October 26, 2014 I have been telling your guys for about a year that Freddie Winter is going to be the next big thing. Well today he ran 1 @ 43! Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted October 26, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 26, 2014 Awesome! I don't disagree he is one to start pushing Nate, and I continue to think KC has a shot in the future as he continues to develop...seems to have the right style. Congrats Freddie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted October 26, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 26, 2014 Terrific! Love to see these guys keep raising the bar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted October 26, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 26, 2014 @horton remember when you asked me who Freddie Winter was and I told you all about him and that he was the next thing since sliced bread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ralph Lee Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 anyone know exactly how tall freddie is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 27, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted October 27, 2014 @MattP no. I do not recall. Do you remember me seeing him ski at the 2013 California Pro AM and then telling everyone that he was the real deal? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skihard Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 Great kid. He ski'd at our lakes 3 weeks ago and I chatted with him for a while! Very polite and down to earth young man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller drewski32 Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 does anyone have video of his 41 and 43 passes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Cam Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 Tony Lightfoot has uploaded it to Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 27, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted October 27, 2014 How many are ing the 41 club and who are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 9400 Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 Rodgers, Mapple, Beaushene, Smith, Asher, Travers, Winter, Parrish .......Degasperi? (not really sure how to count that, other than he ran it, in a tournament, but in a runoff I think...does anybody remember details?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 @Wish I think you meant 43off club. The 41off club is rather large these days. Jeff Rogers - 1997 Andy Mapple - 1998 Ben Favret - 2002 - Boat Path Issue Jamie Beaushane - 2003 Chris Parrish - 2005 Will Asher - 2008 *Thomas Degasperi - 2009 Nate Smith - 2010 Jon Travers - 2012 Freddie Winter - 2014 Jeff Rogers - 55k 2012 Andy Mapple - 55k 2014 *Frederic Halt - 55k 2014 * In a runoff. Does not count as an official score Did I miss any @Edbrazil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller andjules Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 @MattP another asterisk result for *Frederic Halt, who ran 1@-43, 55k in a runoff at the Senior Worlds a couple of weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 @andjules you are right. I added him to the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 27, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted October 27, 2014 @MattP yes yes 43.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jcamp Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 Dr. Michaels is the only member of the 45-off club I believe but perhaps EdBrazil can confirm that one as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 Ah! Dr Michaels, super guy, done wonders for the sport, love him to death, not. Is he still skiing ? not that I am that bothered, just wondered if he had the neck to appear again on the water ski scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted October 27, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted October 27, 2014 @MattP Ben favret's run was disallowed due to boat path. I don't recall either Chuck Forrest or Mike Morgan ever running a full pass at 41. Are you sure about those? @jcamp, whatshisname, the cheating dentist never ran 43, even on his mini course. The illegitimate record was 2@43. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 Apologies Guy,s and Gals, Off Topic I know, just couldn't resist, it will not happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 @Bruce_Butterfield You are correct about Ben's. I made a notation. Go to http://www.ballofspray.com/home-v16/history and click the 43off list. That's where I get most of my info from Also some discussion on the topic here ballofspray.com/forum#/discussion/7047/trivia-how-many-times-has-41-off-been-run-at-a-record-event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted October 27, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted October 27, 2014 @mattp, There seems to be inconsistency between the scores and the 43 off list. I checked the list and neither MM or CF have any scores at 9.75 (43 off). Mikes best was 2.25 and chucks best was 3.5@41. I think Andy and Jeff were the first to run 41 @ 55k. Also good to see MM skiing men's speed the last few years and still doing well. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 I was widely understood that when Jeff Rodgers ran 41 in 2012 he was the first to do it. I'm reasonably sure @Bruce_Butterfield is correct about Mike Morgan and Chuck Forrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 @Bruce_Butterfield @klindy I agree and noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 Hey, don't forget about Aaron Larkin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 @skierjp that was in practice no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 27, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted October 27, 2014 @skierjp I do not believe Larkin has ever posted an official score past 4 @ 41. His PB is 3 or 4 I forget. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 9400 Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 Don't know if anyone knows or remembers this, but when Jeff became the first one to do it. He first ran 5 at 41, which was a record. Then he ran the 1 at 43. 2 world records in a row. I believe the 1 at 43 was run almost at dark thirty. There was a fear that there was not enough light to see the boat path video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 9400 Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 I guess since Jeff was the first to run 41 at 36, then the first to run 41 at 34, will he be the first to run 41 at 32 in about 15 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 27, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted October 27, 2014 @9400 it might actually be harder at 32 mph. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 9400 Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 I am sure it will be. Watching these guys try to get through 39 at 32 at our last 2 tournaments has been entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ilivetoski Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 After seeing Freddy ski at collegiate nationals I got to see first hand how great of a skier he is. Absolutely phenomenal! Could not believe that he did not run that 39 but very excited to see how far he can go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 @9400 are you talking about when he ran 41@ 34mph in 2012 or are you taking about 36mph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 9400 Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 I was talking about him being the very first...at 36. 2 world records in consecutive rounds, 1997ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 @9400 Same basic thing occurred in 2012 at 34mph. Two tournaments (Sat and Sun) of two rounds each. First round he ran 5@41. Second round was 1@43 (scored as 1-1/2 or 1-1/4 but the video confirmed only 1). The light was flat but the light and surrounding landscape made the buoys glow heading back towards the dock. I can't recall if he opted up or not. The Koewn video documentary 43@43 has a lot of great video and storyline. On Sunday Jeff ran 1@43 again and then followed it up with a 1-1/4@43 in the second round. We submitted all three records and the 1-1/4 stands today (until the 2@43 is confirmed). Pretty amazing weekend for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 Freddie if you're reading this, congrats and awesome skiing! Now go chase Nate down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ozski Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 Lets just throw Joel into the mix as well, being a lefty may be more than a little bit useful if he gets into -43 ... Which I think is on the cards given his recent form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 27, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted October 27, 2014 Hmmm, I'll ask again. Who is in the 43 club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rockdog Posted October 28, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2014 Go Joel, you're up next... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 28, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted October 28, 2014 @wish I think @mattp 's list up the page is what you are looking for. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted October 28, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2014 @Wish Jeff Rogers - 1997 Andy Mapple - 1998 Jamie Beaushane - 2003 Chris Parrish - 2005 Will Asher - 2008 *Thomas Degasperi - 2009 Nate Smith - 2010 Jon Travers - 2012 Freddie Winter - 2014 Jeff Rogers - 55k 2012 Andy Mapple - 55k 2014 *Frederic Halt - 55k 2014 * RunOff Score does not count as a official score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Brady Posted October 28, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2014 @MattP don't forget Chuck Norris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 28, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted October 28, 2014 Ooops thought the up the page list was the 41 club. Wow all the way back to 1997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Cam Posted October 28, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2014 I thought Jamie's didn't count as there was no end of course video, unless he ran it somewhere other than France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 9400 Posted October 28, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2014 Jamie tied Jeff and Andy's World Record in Charleston, long before France. I also believe his French score is official but couldn't be submitted for New World Record due to no end course video...but just repeating what I heard on France, not something I know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted October 28, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2014 @Wish 41 off club would be a very long list that would date back to Mike Kjellander in 1988... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DanE Posted October 28, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2014 These long lists make me feel like I suck even more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted October 28, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2014 Ben's score should still count, but not for the record due to boat path ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted October 28, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2014 Pretty elite company. Very cool for Freddie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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