ToddF Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I have looked but can't find any official results. the one link I have checked says it isn't updated yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 Waterskiresults.com has results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddF Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 @klindy that is the site I have been trying, I can see the prelims, but not the final rounds, I can see jumps but no slalom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 I assumed the slalom results weren't posted due to the class F for the 4 buoy course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooSPX Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Erika Lang, Nate Smith, Regina Jaquess, Natallia Berdnikava, Zack Worden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 It would be cool to see a write up on how the finals went down. I saw what was on the USA Water Ski website but it didn't have much detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooSPX Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Erika won with 9780 points over Natallia with 9420 and Whitney with 8580. Nate won with 1@43 over Will with 3@41 in a ski off. Regina scored 4@39.5 over Aprils 1@38. Zack won with a distance of 201 over Jimmy with a distance of 197 in a jump off. I don't know mens trick as I left and came back. Im sure USA WS has it somewhere. Or @Krista knows. I do not remember the womens jump distances either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooSPX Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 http://www.usawaterski.org/default.asp?Display=2010 try that. Should have the break down. Some of my trick points were wrong, I updated them in my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooSPX Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Bojan, Freddy and Ryan all jumped into the sun and after about a 20 minute delay because of the ramp moving. Im sure that and the sun, jumping blind got into their heads as they posted some great distances on Friday. I would have bet it would have been one of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 27, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted October 27, 2014 Does jumping blind into the ramp put you on your heals every time (every jump of theirs was like that)? Not a jumper so just asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 @wish it could. But why were Zack and Jimmy able to correct after one jump each. Where Bojan, Ryan and Freddy basically struggled with 9 jumps collectively? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooSPX Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 @klindy, you are right. They did struggle with all their passes. I am not sure... still think maybe Physiological? I am not a jumper either, so im grasping at straws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 27, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted October 27, 2014 That's what I am wondering. The sun was not getting any better by the time the run off happened. With all the discussion on shore between the jumpers after those 9 jumps, wondering if they figured out what needed to be done to compensate for what was wrong. But what was wrong is still unanswered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 Its not normal for three of the worlds best jumpers to have literally the same trouble with all their jumps. There seems to have been a major change just before Bojan jumped (they had to bring him back to the dock to fix something on the jump). Not sure what it was and I certainly can't speculate but no doubt there was a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 27, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted October 27, 2014 My questions would be about jump alignment and affects on the jumper. Let's say the jump was no longer in the same position in relation to boat path. Say a few degrees off rotationally, maybe more, either direction. Would that affect how things go once the skis hit the ramp and would it affect all skiers? After a bit of discussion with those that went before, could a jumper adjust to the new position and jump farther then previous jumpers? Which rotational direction, left or right, would cause the skis to skid out from underneath the jumper? That's what it looked like from where we sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted October 27, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2014 Generally speaking the more "open" the ramp is to the boat path the easier it is to get on the ramp. The rules allow for a slightly open setup but nothing past "0 degrees closed" - or parallel to the path. Certainly all the jumpers adjust on each attempt. One interesting observation was that Jimmy was taking a very "easy" double cut and started his cut to the ramp quite a bit earlier than all the others. Zack was pretty late on his last (winning) jump. Bojan, Ryan and Freddie were all in approximately the same place turning into the ramp (each with somewhat different turns) and a fair bit later than Jimmy. Purely guessing, I'd say the ramp was turned "closed" too far after the delay to fix whatever broke. At 6' that red beast is hard enough and turn it closed and it's even more brutal. That's not to take anything away from Zack Worden. He stepped up and jumped farther than the rest. Amazing win for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 27, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted October 27, 2014 So if I'm reading your post correctly @klindy, a closed ramp could possibly cause the skis to shift left on the skier when hitting the ramp. We basically could read the bottom of their skis from shore on every jump of the top 3 after ramp was rotated back. So not only were the skis out in front of them, they were having to pull them back under themselves left to rght. Jimmy had a different approach from his first pull out then all the rest. I think he's just damn consistent at it. Looked like he was using dated equipment as well. Oh, and not trying to take anything away from Zach, just trying to understand a possible cause. Sun light in eyes does not seem like it would cause the exact same affect on all 3 top skiers and then seemingly vanish for the run off. But knowing the jump is out of alignment before you jumped would allow for some adjustment in approach I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 28, 2014 Administrators Share Posted October 28, 2014 @wish a closed ramp is visually very disturbing for jumpers. I just looks wrong. Imagine if the left hand gate ball was moved back 5-10 feet toward the green balls in slalom. You could learn to deal with it but it would F you up for a few passes. a closed ramp is a smaller target from the turn to the ramp so it is more difficult and more dangerous. a closed ramp is actually a shallower incline - the more open the ramp the more straight up the ramp the skier travels. If it is very closed it would be just darn awkward. My wild guess is that the course geometry and ramp position were wrong and 3 jumps was not nearly enough to be comfortable with it. When jumpers are uncomfortable they do bad things to feel safe. Being on their heels is the result. What I did hear from one source is that the ski skiers chose not to bitch about it. They skied their event and took what they got. Nice to see some sportsmanship. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 28, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted October 28, 2014 The sportsmanship was apparent at the event. They were comparing notes like crazy and patting each other on the back and wishing each good luck. It was like each wanted the other to have the inside scoop and go further. Did not see a single complaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooSPX Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 That is exactly what I love this sport. The sportsmanship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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