Administrators Horton Posted November 17, 2014 Administrators Share Posted November 17, 2014 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted November 17, 2014 Baller Share Posted November 17, 2014 How do you think the stiffness compares to the Vapor boots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted November 17, 2014 Baller Share Posted November 17, 2014 I was very encouraged to see the main plate is as flexible as it appeared...I expected it to be thicker and much less flexible and would hinder the skis flexibility. Personally, I would liked to have seen it with the new Roxa Hardshells but will be looking forward to the testing phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ozski Posted November 17, 2014 Baller Share Posted November 17, 2014 I agree with the comments about stiffer bindings not always being equal to better skiing, I think once you get to a certain point there is certainly the potential to amplify problems when boots don't forgive slight skier errors enough. I'm at the point now where I run my rear boot pretty loose which allows plenty of movement, I can lift my heel in it easily. Looking forward to this product review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 17, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted November 17, 2014 @Chef23 idk. Need to ski in them Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted November 17, 2014 Supporting Member Share Posted November 17, 2014 To no one's surprise, it was a long learning curve for me to transition from decades of rubber boots to a bleeding edge shell system. I estimate about 2.5 months to reach a true comfort level. It was absolutely worth it. The OB4 System is a fundamentally safer design than any other commercial binding system. It may have already saved my ankle and/or ski in the two cases where I had a release, and I have no doubt that it will grant me an extra season some day. If you are serious about safety, shell out the cash and take the time to set up the best binding option there is. @Horton I don't know if the tension instructions have been updated. The starting point should be the "ft-lbs for release" number is 30% of your body weight in lbs. That and other handy tips can be found in my guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M3z1wtYSyhHVQGdpaH_UOD2dEW0jhYlMHtD0eoizspg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BrennanKMN Posted November 17, 2014 Baller Share Posted November 17, 2014 It was great to see this, I am really excited to hear what you have to say about how they ski. I know I will be getting OB4's on my next ski - just have to make some choices about which boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lakeaustinskier Posted November 17, 2014 Baller Share Posted November 17, 2014 Really looking forward to this review. I've mentioned in a previous thread that I've been trying out the OB4's and my experience with the increased responsiveness/stiffness is definitely a love/hate (I have the Roxas). Horton rides a lot of skis - but with the same bindings (I assume) so this will be a great test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJVDMZN Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Got the OB4 and Hardshell for the wife and she loves it. My/Our Green Machine, with the OB4 System, my son (RFF) and I (LFF) are sharing the same ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller danbirch Posted November 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted November 18, 2014 @Than_Bogan Would this system's release lb's pressure be different when the ski is flexing (i.e. would flexing it tighten/jam it more)? I noticed that they tested it always with a flat ski. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mmosley899 Posted November 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted November 18, 2014 @danbirch the amount of compression of the spring from ski flexing would be insignificant and in most falls you would have already released the pressure that is flexing the ski. As with most other systems, the skier must determine the best release setting for his skiing ability. The least pressure setting that you can use without causing excessive releasing is best. @Than_Bogan can attest to how stout the spring is... Mike's Overall Binding USA Water Ski Senior Judge Senior Driver Senior Tech Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted November 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted November 18, 2014 I look forward to hearing @Horton's thoughts on the system. Y'all can read my review here. @Than_Bogan has some lengthly comments on the system as well.. but we all know he thinks too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted November 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted November 18, 2014 Simple question..If you are trying a new ski and need to move the bindings, do you have to remove the 2 sided tape, front and rear, and replace it every time you make an adjustment ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted November 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted November 18, 2014 @Ed_Johnson Yes, it is only placed in the front under the release mechanism. I was working on an adapter plate back in the Summer and test a version. I need to work on it again. This plate would be used instead of having to drill in new inserts or replacing the tape overtime. I do not move my bindings usually so the tape option works good for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller fox197 Posted May 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted May 22, 2015 Im really impressed with the OB4 release system. Now just waiting for someone to release a boot with boa lacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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