RoundhouseFaceKick Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 My ski partner has a 1995 Sunsetter that we alternate skiing behind several times a week. The other boat we ski behind is a a late model LXi. The wake behind the older boat is extremely noticeable at all line lengths and I can't help but feel like it's in the way of real progress on the water. I would prefer skiing behind my LXi, and I obviously can't ask my partner to get a new boat. My question to you is: Would you say something about the issue and offer more time behind the LXi, or would you bite your tongue, and deal with the big wake several times a week? I'm a mid 35 off skier most sets behind the LXi and I'm having a great day to get through 32 behind the Sunsetter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted March 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2015 I would offer to pull more sets. Save his boat for days when the course is blown out and you are out goofing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted March 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2015 Don't abuse yourself being polite. Just offer to use your own boat. I'm sure your ski partner realizes the difference as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rawly Posted March 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2015 With a name like Roundhouse Face kick , sounds like you can handle the situation. If I had to ski behind a sun setter , I would probably open up with a shorter line and try to avoid the rooster tail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted March 31, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted March 31, 2015 Get a trick Ski when you use the sunsetter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted March 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2015 I would say still ski his boat but there is no need to be cutting the line too short every time you are out on the water. Focus on technique when you are out and longer lines and you will see more improvement behind your boat. Take some volume sets at longer lines http://www.ballofspray.com/forum#/discussion/comment/194765 or follow @Jody_Seal's advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller animal Posted March 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2015 Sometimes skiing behind a tough boat can actually improve some of your technique even though your scores are not as good. It can be good prep and make tournament passes seem easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted March 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2015 RoundhouseFaceKick is a solid name; perhaps that's how you solve this problem with your buddy? Ok not helpful. I actually have the exact same situation with a ski buddy so this is a good thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GAJ0004 Posted March 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2015 They pretty much got the bugs out of the slalom wakes in most boats in the 1990's. My boat is a 1994 Nautique. It's wake is just as flat as the new boats at slalom speeds, but it is not as soft. Older boats will expose weaknesses in your lean across the wakes verses newer boats. Smaller skiers don't like my boat. If you are bigger than a 150 pounds and still feeling more than a slight bump, then you are not on edge enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted March 31, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted March 31, 2015 For me, I would supply the better boat. It's true that the rougher wake will make you improve your form. But, at 140 pounds, I pay a certain price regardless of my form. I would want to at least avoid any increase in OTF probability and potential resulting injury. That seems to increase for me with every crossing of a bigger wake. Each bounce seems to throw me slightly forward when I'm not skiing right, so any mistakes in form are usually catastrophic. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GAJ0004 Posted March 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2015 I can't speak for a Sunsetter since I have never been behind one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller alex38 Posted April 1, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 1, 2015 the key to skiing off an old boat is to ski it MORE, that will shorten the time it takes to rack up hours and be replaced with a newer boat. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundhouseFaceKick Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Sunsetter wake is pretty bad. It's certainly no mid 90's model Nautique.. I've got two OTF injuries behind that boat. True story. This is all great advice; thank you!! I am going to offer up more time behind my boat and use his for form passes when I ski it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted April 1, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 1, 2015 Do you guys ski off the dock, where both boats are located, or do you trailer to a location? We're off the dock guys for the most part, and each use our own boat. Naturally this is not so much of an option when you're trailering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller andjules Posted April 1, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 1, 2015 Like @DaveLemons said, video may be instructive as to what YOU're doing differently. Mid 90s Sunsetter LX is definitely a hard wake (not to be confused with my beloved, diamond-hull Sunsetter LXi, which has a great wake), but I'm surprised it's making that big a difference at 32 off. At 22 off and longer/slower, yeah, I get it (at those lengths/speeds, it 'builds character'). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller foxriverat Posted April 1, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 1, 2015 I have a 96 supra ts6m comp on a lift on the river. Friend I ski with during the week has 02 malibu response on a lift on the river also. I usually get out with him 3 times a week. We skied behind my boat once last year when his was in the shop. I jokingly called him a big sissy that never wants to ski behind my boat. He said. I dont hear you complaining much about it. I smiled and handed him the full 5 gallon gas can that I brought. I use my boat on weekends with another friend or if my malibu buddies not around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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