Baller JWebSki Posted June 15, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 15, 2015 Does anyone have a suggestion for a trick ski binding? I am looking for a hardshell option. It is going to be used for hand tricks. I see a lot of people using reflex but many people say they aren't durable and wear out pretty quickly. Ive also looked at the fluid motion bindings but their main trick ski binding is a non-release. I'm assuming I want a binding that will release, right? Currently I am using my old strada binding that came off my slalom ski, which definitely is not the best option for a trick binding. What is the best option for a trick binding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mmosley899 Posted June 15, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 15, 2015 @JWebSki take a look at the OB4Systems.com website. I have used this release system for tricks for years. Mike's Overall Binding USA Water Ski Senior Judge Senior Driver Senior Tech Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted June 15, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 15, 2015 I use the OB4 for trick and prefer the release style over the Silvretta options because of the rotational release abality and its abality to release upwards. Learning new tricks on hands and toes always leads to lots of falls and the OB4 releasing helps prevent those hard falls and allows you to train longer and harder with a reliable release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dropski Posted June 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 17, 2015 definitely would go with a reflex. I just switched from a Wiley and my very first set on the reflex was the best set of my life. It will make you a better tricker right away and you'll be glad you got one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted June 18, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2015 Reflex. Look at what the majority of pros use. We put all three kids on Reflex for trick over the past 2 years, and now they have them for slalom as well. Noticeable improvement in both events. As a caveat. Some of the pros use Wiley's with the stiffer rubber/EVA stuff. I have just gotten to the point where I don't want to mess with rubber at all. Unfortunately I have a couple that are likely going to jump. Great, double wraps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mmosley899 Posted June 18, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2015 Just because the pros use it, does not make it the best for every skier. Reflex is just what was available until now, and most skiers hate to change boots that they are accustom to. The kids that have made the switch to OB4 love it for tricks. My daughter grew up tricking using the OB4 style release, and now tricks 3500-4000 points. Mike's Overall Binding USA Water Ski Senior Judge Senior Driver Senior Tech Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Moskier3ev Posted June 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 19, 2015 Reflex. We have used them for years. They are dependable,repairable with good preformance. Jeff Lindsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted June 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 19, 2015 I think hardshell is good for control. Reflex, Fluid Motion or OB4 should all work. I put my son on a Reflex back when he was in a size 4 shell and he used it for trick and slalom. Unfortunately we bought our stuff the year before they went to the 500 release so I am still using the old 404 and scavenging parts whenever I kind find them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JWebSki Posted June 19, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted June 19, 2015 @mmosley899 do they use the OB4 hard shells as well as the release mechanism or just the release with other boots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mmosley899 Posted June 20, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 20, 2015 @JWebSki you can use almost any type hard shell or soft fit boot on the OB4 System. Most trickers are using some type of hard shell boot. My daughter, @MattP, and I use an OB4 hard shell boot for tricks. Mike's Overall Binding USA Water Ski Senior Judge Senior Driver Senior Tech Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted June 20, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 20, 2015 @mmosley899 It seems that your release system with @Brewski's custom bindings would be amazing... http://www.ballofspray.com/forum#/discussion/comment/137980 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mmosley899 Posted June 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2015 @ToddL yes they would and expensive! But his boots will work on my release system. Mike's Overall Binding USA Water Ski Senior Judge Senior Driver Senior Tech Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Brewski Posted July 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2015 I can also build a boot to any system.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Brewski Posted July 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2015 ....and have a new Reflex plate that is OUT OF THIS WORLD.....new contact while wating on the new website: kohensports@yahoo.com 573-392-7432 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Brewski Posted July 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2015 http://kohensports.com/ new stuff on there soon as I get a patent filed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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