Baller igkya Posted October 27, 2017 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2017 We've used copper sulfate (food grade) the last several years with great results to control/eliminate algae. Lake owner has Ammonium sulfate (I think) and wants us to use that next year. I'm doing research but thought I'd reach out here to see if anyone has experience with AS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 27, 2017 Administrators Share Posted October 27, 2017 @bishop8950 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted October 27, 2017 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2017 ammonium sulfate is a fertilizer and not a specific algeacide. It does control some algaes, also. It can also be detrimental to fish and other aquatic life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted October 27, 2017 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2017 I bet it is aluminum sulfate not ammonium. I may be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 27, 2017 Administrators Share Posted October 27, 2017 Ammonium perchlorate is a key ingredient in solid rocket fuel Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller igkya Posted October 27, 2017 Author Baller Share Posted October 27, 2017 @Dirt, it could be aluminum (I got a voice mail from owner and haven't seen the stuff yet)... would that be more similar to the copper sulfate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted October 27, 2017 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2017 Not sure but I have heard of people using aluminum sulfate and copper sulfate for algae not ammonium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted October 27, 2017 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2017 @BoneHead are you sure you not thinking about ammonium NITRATE. That is a fertilizer. I'm not familiar with the sulfate version. Edit: as Emily Latella would say "never mind" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bishop8950 Posted October 27, 2017 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2017 Hydrated potassium aluminum sulfate, often referred to as alum, is used as a floccualnt in water treatment. It grabs the phospourus, nitrates and other junk out of the water table and sinks it to the bottom of the lake (in the case of a lake). This clarifies the water and removes the algae food so your algae concentrations go down without the need for algeacides. I know a few lakes that have done this, including ours with good results. It’s not cheap and can be a few grand to $10k per treatment per ski lake depending on what you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted October 28, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted October 28, 2017 Anyone ever try food coloring to tint a lake? Our water flows in and out, so applying an expensive chemical compound is unattractive as it will head down stream. On the other hand, after we treat for weeds, the water becomes exceptionally clear, in comes the sun and voila! Weeds again. We’ve been told food coloring is a cheap substitute. Anyone ever try it? Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted October 28, 2017 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2017 Absolutely blue dye screens out the sun rays and keeps both algae and weeds at bay. Is there anyway to restrict the in and out flows? We had algae years ago, no weeds, and spent a bunch on copper sulfate and cutrine (safer for swimming in right away). We found more success in using concentrated blue dye and occasionally throwing in Yellow Red (10% of blue) to block out the rest of the light spectrum that blue doesn't, although, I determined it wasn't necessary long term, so we stopped using Yellow Red. And we added sterile Amurs. When there are no weeds or grasses, they eat filmentos moss algae, which is what we had. Our water is very clear and rarely see algae blooms now. It is usually from us not recharging the lake with blue dye fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted October 28, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted October 28, 2017 @A_B No can do. Our lake is part of an engineered water management system for nearby development. It took quite a while, but we finally got a permit for the fish. We have Jon Travers and Zack Worden doing a final harvest with the Mississippi Queen, and hopefully the fish will keep things in check from here on, with a little help from the dye. Thanks for the advice! Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiinxs Posted November 2, 2017 Baller Share Posted November 2, 2017 +1 on the blue dye. We tried it this year for the first time and it completely eliminated all weeds and algae. We already had grass carp, but they were not getting the job done and the weeds were getting worse every year. It could be that the dye reduced the weeds and algae enough for the grass carp to finish the job, but the results were 100%. Much better than I could have ever hoped for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted November 3, 2017 Baller Share Posted November 3, 2017 @A_B sterile Amurs. Is this a carp? We have had the sterile "grass carp" in our lake but they've all died off due to all age. I wasn't aware that they would eat algae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted November 3, 2017 Baller Share Posted November 3, 2017 Yes. They eat algae when grass and weeds aren’t available. We didn’t have weeds so they ate the algae. Could see them on the shoreline grazing like cows. We have some huge carp now. We bought about 25 of them over 20-years who. Have only seen a few floaters over the years. A few have to be 3-foot or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiinxs Posted November 3, 2017 Baller Share Posted November 3, 2017 I have been told that the grass carp don't eat a whole lot until they are 2-3 year old and really slow down eating between age 7 and 10, so it is necessary to keep bringing in fresh one to keep seeing results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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