Baller Ed_Johnson Posted September 5, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 5, 2018 The Mini-Wing at 5 degrees works best for me. Anything larger or more angle gives me extra drag that I can feel. That was the same for the Vapor, EVO, and NRG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted September 5, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 5, 2018 Denali - 6 deg on C 65 and 7 deg on Vapor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted September 6, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 6, 2018 My Denali felt like I was dragging an anchor until I reset the S-wing to 5 degrees. I have no idea how some people are running 9-10 degree S-wings!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted September 6, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 6, 2018 Totally agree with @thager, I have 6 different size wings I have tried, and anyone of them, including mini wings and ventrals, when placed over 5 degrees, on 3 different skis, added drag you could feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted September 6, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted September 6, 2018 Homemade S-wing at 6.5 deg. More than 7 deg is way too much drag If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ali Posted September 6, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 6, 2018 I am running the standard wing on my vapor at 8. Sounds like I should be trying something smaller. Where is best place to get one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted September 6, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 6, 2018 I bent my own medium size wing a few degrees in back. Usually run 9 and tried 7 for my first set and it felt pretty solid. Now I am waiting on weather for round two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jipster43 Posted September 7, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 7, 2018 I would love to try an s-wing on my fin. Are those ever going to become available for purchase? I’d love to try a c-65 too. Are those ever going to be available in a 65”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller disland Posted September 8, 2018 Author Baller Share Posted September 8, 2018 I tried standard wing at 7 and felt like I was dragging an anchor, next set no wing. Fixed the anchor problem but ski was somewhat unstable. Went to mini wing at 7, not quite there yet. Should I go 5 degrees or make the fin smaller next? ( note: I am only a 28 off guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted September 9, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 9, 2018 @disland ... Go 5 degrees no matter what size wing you use. I found the mini wing works great at 28 and 32, and a medium size wing at 35 and 38, all at 5 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 9, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted September 9, 2018 Don't think I've ever seen a 5 degree angle gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted September 9, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 9, 2018 @Wish...Maybe that's been your problem !!! LOL Guess you could always put a 12 opposed by a 7 together !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 9, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted September 9, 2018 @Ed_Johnson I just need to swing down to your place and barrow yours LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted September 9, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 9, 2018 No Problem..There's a whole set in the glove compartment on my 200. Everyone else on the Lake uses them, plus the next Lake over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller VONMAN Posted September 9, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 9, 2018 jipster43 Save your money, if you really want to feel what a S-wing feels like. Set your normal wing to 13 or 15 degrees, then ski on it and tell me how it feels. Good luck! Ernie Schlager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller disland Posted September 12, 2018 Author Baller Share Posted September 12, 2018 @Ed_Johnson 5 degrees on the mini wing is the ticket, I would never have tried that without your help Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted September 12, 2018 Supporting Member Share Posted September 12, 2018 Yesterday I finally got around to actually trying a normal wing with my (prototype versions of ) c-65 and CG Fin. I was really surprised that it was completely different from the S-wing. After almost a year on the S-wing, the regular wing felt terrible. So much glide everywhere and flying right past the buoys. I actually had to stand rather differently to even run a pass. That's not to say a regular wing couldn't work with the ski. In fact, I know for a fact that the ski was nearly done before the Denali team even came up with the idea of the S-wing, and they were absolutely loving it with the regular wing. But I think perhaps the take-home is that a regular wing and an S-wing require substantially different setups (perhaps both bindings placement and fin setting). And that seems to further imply that if somebody is interested in taking advantage of the S-wing (which I definitely suggest!) you may need to tune your setup to let it do what it's designed to do. When it's set up right, it doesn't cost any cross-course speed, but then shuts right down into a controlled turn with tight lines everywhere. But based on what I experienced last night, I bet if you I just slapped an S-wing onto a ski fully turned for a regular wing, that the ski would shut down before it even got started? I suspect all of this also applies to a non-Denali ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted September 12, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2018 @disland .... Your welcome, glad it worked out for you. What I also found out was the mini-wing at 5 worked great through 32 off, going to 35 and 38, a medium size wing worked well to help slow you down a little more. Still at 5 degrees!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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