Baller SkiJay Posted September 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2018 The first printing of Fin Whispering is nearly sold out and I’m trying to decide whether to do a second edition or not. Most of the general prep info would remain the same, but about 1/8th of the book would be rewritten to update concepts, procedures and formulae for binding and fin tuning—aka the important stuff. It would be a lot of work and small runs of books are very expensive, so I’ll only go ahead with this if there seems to be enough demand. Your vote won’t be made public, and your help with this decision would be much appreciated. Many thanks for all your support to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjm Posted September 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2018 Put me on the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Killer Posted September 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2018 Yes do it, but audio version! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller scorban2 Posted September 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2018 I'm planning to buy a copy over the winter. Sounds like I need to wait for the new one or get ahold of one of the remaining ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted September 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2018 Any way to publish digitally? Cheaper for your print cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bbruzzese Posted September 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2018 I learned a ton from the first edition...did a great job of explaining "how and why" for me at least. i think a "troubleshooting" guide would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhofert Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 How about just a shorter, new info only edition? I got a lot of knowlage out of the first but dont get nearly enough time skiing to play much with my settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dano Posted September 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2018 I'm with Bracemaker. Rather than printing and shipping. Create a PDF, pay per download. Will save you the cost of printing and the hassle of shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 14, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted September 14, 2018 +1 for printable/payable PDF if that doesn't mess up your vision of how your book could be updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Orlando76 Posted September 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2018 As somebody who knows next to nothing about fin theory I was thinking this week how I should get this book to learn. Plus I finally broke down and bought calipers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted September 14, 2018 Supporting Member Share Posted September 14, 2018 I would be especially interested if the new material talks more about speed, carry-out, direction holding, and other things that happen away from the turn. I'm increasingly becoming convinced that the effect on the ski across the wakes is even more important than in the turn. But I'm even more clueless about what does what for that portion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Booze Posted September 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2018 +1 on what ThanBogan said. I recently have encountered numerous ski/fin setups/changes where everything felt great, but the ski did not cast out, or carry-out, like I wanted or how it did at stock or previous settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller baja Posted September 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2018 I'll buy a copy of the 2nd Edition in whatever format you choose. This will replace the 1st Edition that has migrated to a ski buddy's house along with my extra pair a calipers. He let's me borrow it anytime I want so I got that going for me. Amazon self publishing is an easy way to go for both paperback and/or Kindle digital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MarkSAU Posted September 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2018 For the guys Downunder who pay more for postage than the cost of the book, the online soft copy will be very welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rbuss4 Posted September 15, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 15, 2018 Please update us as soon as you decide. I need a copy for this off season; one or the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted September 15, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 15, 2018 I am in for second edition as soon as it comes out. I will donate my first edition to one of my ski buddies or my ski club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted September 15, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 15, 2018 What @dhofert said. Make the new edition mostly new stuff. Include a troubleshooting guide as @bbruzzese suggested. And, what @Than_Bogan and @Booze said about some tips for better cross course performance to help set up the ski for casting out. Tall order, good luck! :) :) And, pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skirvind Posted September 15, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 15, 2018 I'd be up for an update always like to learn more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller One_Ski Posted September 15, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 15, 2018 If there's an electronic/pdf/Kindle version, I will buy one. Paper, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted September 16, 2018 Author Baller Share Posted September 16, 2018 Thank you for all this feedback. Most of the wish list above is slated to be addressed in a future book that's currently in an advanced stage of outline. It will be all new, more concise, and will take a different approach to the subject altogether. But it's still thousands of hours away. It's been delayed for nearly two years now by ongoing research into a new fin design. Meanwhile, the decision at hand isn't about the content or format for the existing book. It's about a simple update and reprint. There's still steady demand for the first book as word spreads beyond BallOfSpray, but it may not be enough to justify an economically sized printing order. That's why I'm asking how many of you would be interested in purchasing a second edition if ⅛ of the book is updated to include what I've learned over the past three years of research and tuning skis for a living. And yes, there may be an electronic version later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted September 16, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 16, 2018 I am still in for the extra 1/8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted September 16, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 16, 2018 All in for an updated 2nd edition. For me an A-B-C, 1-2-3 summary page for quick set up would be nice with an if this- then try that arrangement would be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller One_Ski Posted September 16, 2018 Baller Share Posted September 16, 2018 I'm also in for the extra 1/8, but only if its an electronic version. When that comes out, I'll buy one. If you'd email me a pdf of the book, I'd buy that - even if it's password protected or otherwised unsharable/unprintable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Rednucleus Posted June 1, 2019 Baller_ Share Posted June 1, 2019 As I read all the info on the two fins, I bought myself a slightly early Bday present today. I know zero about changing a ski from it's stock set up; hoping this book won't hurt my brain too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodecon Posted June 2, 2019 Baller Share Posted June 2, 2019 I finally caved and purchased a copy today as well, I am excited to take the tumultuous journey of a "fin tweaker"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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