Why is the 2019 Nautique 200 heavier than it’s predecessors?

[Jmoski]

Hey guys,

 

Anyone know why the 2019 200 is 550 pounds heavier than its 2010-2018 counterparts?

 

Just noticed that fact since I am about to buy a lift for my 196, but am sizing the lift to handle a 200 in case I upgrade. The weight jumping to 3400 means I probably need a 5k lift instead of 4K. Granted I would most likely buy a low hour first generation 200 that would be ok with the 4K lift.

 

Thanks

[rayn]

@Jmoski that 200 won’t make it through the keyhole tunnel anyways.

[Jmoski]

@rayn - True, but it WILL work at our new lake house in Maine! We have the P&S signed and close in May.

 

Of interest if I upgrade to a MC prostar, I am back at 3400# - which lift and capacity do you have Ray?

[rayn]

Congrats on the lake house. I have the sunstream sl-4. Which has a rating on 4k-4500 depending on lift height.

[oldjeep]

Um, because it is freaking huge compared to a 196.

[Jmoski]

@oldjeep - yes, the 200 is much bigger, but i’m Not comparing the 196 dry weight to the 2019 200, I’m comparing the diff between a 2018 & 2019 200.

 

2006 196 - 2570#

2018 200 - 2850#

2019 200 - 3400#

2019 ski - 2945#

 

https://www.planetnautique.com/CorrectCraftManuals/SpecSheet.xlsx

[oldjeep]

My guess is that they got honest about the weight of the 2019 200 in order to sell their other ski boat. I seriously doubt that the 2018 weighs 2850

[bkreis]

@Jmoski I have a 2018 200ob for sale with 27 hours all white, 5.3 zo, stereo, heater, air damn etc..

[Jmoski]

@bkreis - where do you have it listed? Thanks for the lead, but I won’t be in a position to upgrade this year as all remaining funding will be exhausted after the house purchase and lift purchase.

[PatM]

I have a 4000lb lift with a 2018 200 and previously had a 196 on it. No problems at all. I think a 3400lb boat would not be an issue.

[Hallpass]

There was another thread discussing this. Might have been the very long thread about the new 200. I seem to recall something about the manner in which the are constructing the top cap accounting for weight difference. ICBW.

 

[ozski]

500lbs is not a trivial amount of weight, its a long way heavier than all the other boats.

[bkreis]

@Jmoski miami nautique is handling it.

[mbabiash]

Put my new 2019 nautique 200 in the water yesterday. All I can say is, if the boat is heavier, it doesn’t translate to the wake. My ski partner skied and he has a 2014 200 and said it felt just as good if not better. I drove because of some back issues but it tracked better than his 2014. Feels so solid.

It’s super quiet and unbelievably strong. It made my 6.0 in my previous Malibu feel like a 4 banger. So happy with my purchase.

Oh and the user interface of the Linc screen is so easy and intuitive.

 

[disland]

Nice boat!

[Zman]

Craftlander makes a very well built 4500 lb. lift.

This lift uses 5/16 SS cables, versus 1/4 inch found on lower weight rated lifts, and lifts by many other manufacturers.

Might not sound like much, but it is.

[swc5150]

There's no way it's that much heavier than the previous 200. Without the saddle bags, it might even be a few pounds lighter. I'm thinking maybe they sandbagged the old number or inflated the new number to make the SN appear much lighter?

 

@mbabiash wow that's a great looking boat. For the common man, I think it would be a hard upsell to go an SN over the 200.

[skihart]

@mbabiash Hey Matt, nice looking ride! Great colors. Can you post a pics of the new dash and screen?

[mbabiash]

 

[oldjeep]

That is a great looking screen. Makes the retro looking keypad below look out of place

[KRoundy]

@mbabiash That is a beautiful ski machine!

[skihart]

@mbabiash Hey Matt that dash is the cat's a$$!!!

[Ed_Johnson]

Boat looks GREAT, so Happy for you !!!

 

 

[ForrestGump]

I would not trust any mfr's listed weights for any boat. The only accurate way to know is measure yourself.

[Jerry44]

That's a beautiful boat! Love the colors.

 

[ForrestGump]

That trailer is about 1200lbs if I remember correctly.

 

[oldjeep]

Easy way to tell is look at the rating sticker on the trailer. Subtract the little number from the big number and that is what the mfg thinks the trailer weighs. For a single my guess is 900lbs

[oldjeep]

@"Jack Kinne" trailer disconnected from truck? Or axle weight with tongue on ball? If it was attached to truck you are shy on your weight by 10-15%

[ForrestGump]

Even the trailer mfr's are off. Last single axle nautique trailer I weighed was somewhere in the 1100-1200 range and the tandem axle was 1500-1600 from what I recall.

[oldjeep]

The singles use a heavier axle and larger diameter rim with heavier e rated tires, so i guess i could believe it - in a rounded off to the nearest 50 lbs kind of measurement

[DavidN]

Really only one way to find out - launch your boat and get the empty trailer weighted.

[DW]

FWIW I was surprised how close the stated weight on the trailer sticker matched the weight off a scale. Not too relevant as a mid 90's trailer so take it with a grain of salt but a data point. As noted, best to run it over the scales.

[Golson]

I drove a new 2019 Ski AND a new 2019 200 with the same engine, the base 6.0L ZR4 409hp engine.

 

I’m unsure of the transmissions or props used, but the 200 was a rocket compared to the Ski. The 200 got to speed quicker, and felt way stronger and easier to drive in the course.

 

Same hull below the rub rail, so with the new 200 your spending a lot more money on the same wake, but it has SeaDek, no saddle bags, a weird step to the bow, and a gorgeous driver’s display.

 

I drove the new Ski with the H6 450hp and the H5 355hp. I wouldn’t buy the new Ski without the 6.2L H6 motor unless a different prop can solve the hole shot problem.

[mbabiash]

I’ve heard the same thing comparing the 6.0 in both new Nautiques. Which begs the question, does weight really matter. If the Ski Nautique weighs less than the 200 it sure pushes more water.

All I know is my new 200 is the best boat I’ve owned to date and it is an absolute rocket and tracks on rails.

And same world class wake of the past 200s.

[ozski]

Once up to speed I dont think the new ski would push more water than the 200, I would have thought the reverse? Having spent plenty of time driving both it feels like the ski is more on top of the water.

[UWSkier]

Same engine, same trans, same prop on both? Or different? Would be curious which one is turning more RPM.

[RAWSki]

I didn't realize you could get the new SN with the 6L . I thought the choices were only the DI Motors?