Baller Andre Posted July 10, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2019 My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted July 10, 2019 Author Baller Share Posted July 10, 2019 Freddie 4.5 @41 really looked like he was gonna run it! My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller TrickyTom Posted July 10, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2019 Looked like he was gonna run it, but he crashed very hard in the second round at 4.5@41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller TonyLightfoot Posted July 10, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2019 He's got some swelling on his left arm but should be good-to-go for Thursday. Gnarly crash though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted July 10, 2019 Author Baller Share Posted July 10, 2019 Great job again @TonyLightfoot !!! My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted July 10, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2019 That was a crazy knot on @FWinter forearm after that crash. Going to be stiff as hell for the next few days I'm sure. Unreal skiing though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted July 11, 2019 Author Baller Share Posted July 11, 2019 Bump! Pros are on. My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted July 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MuskokaKy Posted July 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2019 that was the cleanest 41 I have ever seen!!!! ( Will Asher) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted July 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2019 @Bill22 SPOILER ALERT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 11, 2019 Administrators Share Posted July 11, 2019 I wonder of the event organizers knew that the webcast would show the boat video in slow motion. You can see the boat paths reasonably well. Looking back from the boat does not show the path nearly as well as end coarse but it is an indicator. Before anyone loses their $H*t at me - Go back and watch the replay. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted July 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2019 @UWSkier sorry! If you didn’t want to know, you shouldn’t be reading BOS unit after you watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted July 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2019 @Bill22 no worries. Came to this thread for link. @Horton yeah... Use the little gear icon in the lower right corner to slow playback to .25 speed and... I will say though that looking at propwash probably isn't the best indicator as that should always look a little wavy as the boat is pulled over from side to side and the thrust is adjusted to compensate. Could make it look way worse than it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted July 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2019 While we’re talking spoilers. Watching Pigozzi take down TGas... PRICELESS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 11, 2019 Administrators Share Posted July 11, 2019 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jaypro Posted July 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2019 @Horton for reference, could you post the same view from a proper pull? That looks terrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rico Posted July 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2019 @Horton I am no pro driver but I imagine that at 41 the driver has to point the nose of the boat away from the skier. The wake spray will look like it's not straight but the pylon may still be in the center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rico Posted July 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2019 Also I don't think you can tell the boat path from the boat view. only end course video is really a good point of view, unless the boat start taking guides buoys off of course :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted July 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2019 That looks like a beautiful site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted July 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2019 Spectacular event and broadcast, and wow just wow final for Asher. Nice way to spend the morning - cooking breakfast with the Tour de France on Tv and the French Malibu Open on the iPad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DanE Posted July 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2019 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skigosfield Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Hi guys the boat driving looks pretty spot on. I’m not sure if they had the real time end course with live measurement buoy by buoy monitored constantly by a senior judge, we used in Italy at the week end, The boat is moving away from the current turn to compensate the skier. It’s also a Malibu boat which has a counter clockwise rotating prop and sends it rooster more down the left of the course when you compensate hard. I think you would be amazed what goes on in the boat ? .. it ant big dawg?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted July 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2019 check out the overhead drone cam on the Denali homepage to see how propwash makes it look like the pull is being soft-sided. The boat pivots and the prop wash moves but the pylon stays pretty well centered. There's one correction mid-course in that vid that's pretty substantial but the rest of it seems close to centered. https://www.denaliskis.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Not_The_Pug Posted July 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2019 Only way to tell on a straight boat path is to watch the pylon from the end course video. The prop wash shouldn't be straight if you are staying in sync with the skier while the pylon is in the center. We were having a discussion about this with a new driver over the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 12, 2019 Administrators Share Posted July 12, 2019 @Not_The_Pug I 100% agree that prop wash is not a conclusive way to judge boat path. I'm just saying this video does contains some interesting prop wash. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted July 12, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2019 We all know prop wash is just one indicator of boat path. The pylon is what counts. But, I took some looks at my boat path this afternoon in the mirror, only pulling 32 off at 34 mph. Even when I felt I might be off a little, I never saw the prop wash ever come any closer than 1 foot from the boat guides on either side. And, I drive a Malibu too. To have the boat guides buried in prop wash is "interesting". But, I am more curious what some of the top drivers think. Means much more than what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ballsohard Posted July 12, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2019 As a top driver and a Malibu guy I'm curious what @Chad_Scott thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller matthewbrown Posted July 12, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2019 Nonsense, the prop wash is an excellent way to assess boat path. The distance from the pylon to the prop is maybe 6’. The boat would have to be turned at an extreme angle for their to be much centerline difference between the two, it’s just geometry. Not to mention how can you reconcile a dead center prop wash at 1,3,5 and a 6 inch to 9 inch displacement toward the 2,4 turns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted July 12, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2019 @matthewbrown Agree. Maybe a couple of us were being too PC. But, my main point was prop wash shouldn't be hugging boat guides, especially not hugging the boat guides on same side as the skier. IMHO At our lake today, I was seeing about a foot of "clean water" between the prop wash and boat guides on both sides. I am not a tournament driver, but I do strive for a good line, and to slightly pick up the skier out of the turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted July 12, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2019 As a good comparison, watch the boat video for Regina's new pending world record. The prop wash never touches a boat guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_Scott Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I would have to agree with my friend @matthewbrown The prop wash is an indicator of the boat path. That’s not to say that there is never a variance based on load and counter steering. While the prop was can move depending on the boat and the pylon being centered. It’s usually somewhat closer to the middle. The best view is from the end course camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skigosfield Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just off to drive the Maple pro am ✊️? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller APB Posted July 12, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2019 In this day how can there not be gps alignment. Sensor on pylon, one at each end of the lake. My car vibrates when I get close to the shoulder lol. At the same time that the rope gets cut, time is good, boat path is confirmed. Then we wouldn’t have to hear apres whining about events we weren’t at, drivers we don’t know, it’s getting cheezy. The real video to watch is the video of the pylon from the end of the lake. Will won, tourney head judge signed off on it I’m guessing.... done. Congrats Will! On to the next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiaddict Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 The boat path looks bad but I heard the driver was going straight according to the judges and the cameras. So maybe it's just the way the boat creates the rooster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rico Posted July 12, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2019 @APB there is a such a thing. It’s called splasheye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Alberto Soares Posted July 12, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2019 Nice driving, may be a bit excess of counter steering but pretty regular for all skiers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller APB Posted July 12, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2019 Splasheye comes up short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Splasheye Posted July 12, 2019 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2019 Most of the Elite events in Europe are using the latest SplashEyeDrive software. Allows the judge to manually track the boat and get results after each pass. Takes about 10 seconds and gives a yes/no on buoy and cumulative tolerance. Software is free to download on www.splasheye.com/splasheyedrive Just needs a standard end course camera, laptop and $200 usb video capture card to run it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 12, 2019 Administrators Share Posted July 12, 2019 @Splasheye do they use your system in France? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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