Administrators ROBOT Posted August 5, 2019 Administrators Share Posted August 5, 2019 Today we release the 2020 Senate Pro. Updated to match the shape design of our latest Vapor with additional width to provide balance and support. Now available in 65”, 67” and 69” versions.https://radarskis.com/products/2020-senate-pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KRoundy Posted August 5, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 5, 2019 Wow, we usually have to wait a year before the current Vapor shape is available in the Senate line. Cool! So many new skis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted August 5, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 5, 2019 Not a fan of the lime green. But maybe the mad scientists at Radar discover green is faster. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skirvind Posted August 5, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 5, 2019 Coming off a 2019 Senate Pro, the ride felt, familiar but with a new level of refinement, smooth turns, soiled feel and great acceleration. I setup the ski using the same settings as my 19 on my first set ran right up to my normal average, which is going up now :). Overall it's well worth taking a demo ride just remember to bring your wallet. Fantastic Ski, Great Job Radar this one is going to be hard to top! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted August 6, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just the Pro getting the new shape or will all of them? On a 71" 2019 Lithium and really digging it but if folks are finding it easier to stay on the front of the 2020s I may look to make the switch. Currently 248 lbs and cutting weight slowly. Perhaps a 69... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Industry Professional brooks Posted August 6, 2019 Industry Professional Share Posted August 6, 2019 All 2020 Senates will feature the updated shape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjm Posted August 6, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 6, 2019 Ski was delivered this afternoon and I road it this evening. It is freaking awesome!! Thanks to Radar and Preformance Ski. Special thanks to @brooks for the hypotheticals. I am stoked!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogboy Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 exciting! How am I going to explain going to the next demo days, when I bought a '19' 11 months ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogboy Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Thanks Brooks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjm Posted August 9, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 9, 2019 Second ride was last night. This ski is the real deal, the magic is still there. Right out of box just awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted August 9, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 9, 2019 @tjm what were you on before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjm Posted August 9, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 9, 2019 @UWSkier 2019 lithium Vapor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted August 10, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 10, 2019 Very happy. Skied up to my PB (28) first time on it and now beyond. 32 going down soon. Came off a 19 Senate Lithium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller paul413ski Posted August 11, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 11, 2019 @brooks 220lbs currently on a 69.5 lithium vapor skiing into 35 at 34 mph any thoughts on size switching to the senate .? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller paul413ski Posted August 12, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 12, 2019 @brooks @Chris Rossi any thoughts on size 5 ft 11 at 220 lb skiing into 35 off on a 69.5 2018 vapor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Industry Professional brooks Posted August 12, 2019 Industry Professional Share Posted August 12, 2019 @paul413ski you could certainly try a 69 Senate. At that level the Vapor still works well too though. What are you looking for your ski to do differently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 12, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 12, 2019 Oh man. The 2010 Senate C that Sully custom built me with the black carbon weave top is still my favorite ski of all time. Maybe I need to try a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller paul413ski Posted August 13, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 13, 2019 @brooks more support at the back of the ball - latest Radar magic ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted August 18, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 18, 2019 Still smiling...haven’t missed a 28 in a week and down to 4@32 now. Before this ski 28 was a very rare occurrence. Full disclosure this is all at 32.3 mph. Since none of us tournament ski and we are all 50-60 it makes it a bit easier on the bodies and crashes are a little softer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller paul413ski Posted August 21, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 21, 2019 It’s on the plane cannot wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted August 21, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 21, 2019 Hmmm... 5’7” 170-175 lbs. Thinking I can get away with a 65. @brooks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Industry Professional brooks Posted August 21, 2019 Industry Professional Share Posted August 21, 2019 @C5Quest what speed and line lengths predominantly? I normally top it around 165. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted August 22, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2019 Starting to run -28 at 34 mph. And improving. I’m on the edge for weight but height puts me shorter ? Trying to drop at least 5 pounds though. I ride a 66 Vapor Pro also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Industry Professional brooks Posted August 22, 2019 Industry Professional Share Posted August 22, 2019 @c5quest, you may be fine but you will experience a little less “gas pedal” then you’re used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted August 22, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2019 @C5Quest ... You might want to take note that Nate Smith skis on a lot larger ski than his weight calls for, and he does pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted August 22, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2019 Didn’t know that. But isn’t he kind of a tall bean pole build so the longer size suites him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted August 22, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2019 I remember one of the Radar Pro Skiers, when I was between sizes, years a go, told me, "You should ride the biggest ski that you can get to turn." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller paul413ski Posted August 22, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2019 @C5Quest spent several years on a ski to small took the leap to the bigger size and added a pass to my skiing now skiing into 35 instead of 32 off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 76SS Posted August 22, 2019 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2019 I just saw a video of TW on IG skiing on a 2020 67" KD Platinum. He didn't appear to have any trouble turning it and it seems like a large ski for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjm Posted September 20, 2019 Baller Share Posted September 20, 2019 I’ve been on the Senate Pro since August 4. I’m still luvin it. Best thing is it gets better and better with every set. Thanks again Radar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gsm_peter Posted September 21, 2019 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2019 Any experiences going from the 2017 shape (2016 Vapor shape) to the 2020 Senate shape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller paul413ski Posted September 21, 2019 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2019 @gsm_peter Several sets on the new lithium Senate can safely say this is the easiest ski I have ever skied on my off side is the best ever less stress on the body Great job Radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted October 2, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 2, 2019 So any further experiences on this thing? How about some reports with a whisper fin set up? Looking to add another Senate to the quiver next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller paul413ski Posted October 2, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 2, 2019 @C5Quest installed the whisper on my 69 31.5 binding 2.515 1.905 5.760 lff love the ski with these numbers off side is the best ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted October 2, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 2, 2019 @paul413ski is the Whisper fin thin like the stock fin or did you have to stuff it in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmitchell Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I am on a Senate Pro 65 inch now and love it! I am 5’ 6” and 168, coming off of a 66” D3 and skiing better than I have in 2 years. Thanks Corey and Brooks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted October 3, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 3, 2019 @jeffmitchell how was the transition? Does the 65 feel small? I’m about same height and weight. Maybe a couple pounds heavier but will slim down to 170. Stock fin or whisper fin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller paul413ski Posted October 3, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 3, 2019 @a_b fitted straight in the block was originally bought for my lithium vapor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebergman Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 @C5Quest One of my Students switched to a 67' 2020 Senate Pro from a 69" 2015 Senate. He has gone from 3@28 to 2@35 Pb since switching skis. Fully stock settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted October 4, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 4, 2019 So he downsized? Height and weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller AndersonSkiTeam Posted October 4, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 4, 2019 Not sure if this is the right thread but I am debating between a 2019 and 2020 Senate Pro. I can pick up a 19 relatively cheap to the '20. Anyone try both and know how they are skiing different. I am on a 2016 Vapor and like it but am a 34mph 15-28off skier. Thinking the switch to Senate Pro '19 or '20 may be more beneficial for me than my 2016 Vapor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RAK Posted October 4, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 4, 2019 Really like my 2020 Senate pro 67 was on 16 Vapor Graphite 68 34mph 15-22 off skier on upper weight limit 95kgs but works well for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted October 4, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 4, 2019 Had a 19 Senate Lithium (great ski) and now a 20 Senate Pro. Skied the best I ever have this year on the 20 Senate Pro. It just works well everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobonator Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 @AndersonSkiTeam I know the gentlemen @bergs is talking about. He went back to back between the 19 and the 20 and ended up skiing better, and purchasing the 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jskier Posted October 5, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 5, 2019 @C5Quest: That student weighs 205 and is 6"3 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk2ski Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 How about the 2020 Senate Pro 65" for a women skier 130 lbs, 5'5". Max speed is 30 mph. Will generating speed be harder? Skiing 22 and 28 off. Should I try it or try something different? Such as Lyric Graphic or Vapor Pro Build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 34mph Posted October 7, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 7, 2019 @kk2ski ... My wife loves the Lyric Graphite ...Skis 15 off at 30 mph in the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted October 8, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 8, 2019 I think 65 Senate would work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller m_pags Posted October 9, 2019 Baller Share Posted October 9, 2019 I've been on a 2020 67" Senate Pro for 7 sets now. I downsized from a 2019 69" Senate Pro. I'm 6'3" 195 lbs. This ski is just flat out working for me. Quicker turns, more angle and way earlier at the ball. I've run more -28's in 7 sets than I did in a year on the 69" and today I ran -32 for the 1st time ever. My settings are stock #s from Radar's website. I ski at 32.3 due to joint replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk2ski Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I'm on a 66" Vapor Pro Build now and would think downsizing to 65" Senate Pro might be a good choice. The 66" Pro Build doesn't turn like I would like it to. It's pretty good across course, creates good speed, I would just like it to turn better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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