Baller A_B Posted March 10, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 10, 2020 Anyone have one they aren't using? Cheaper the better. Thanks AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller igkya Posted March 11, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 11, 2020 @A_B Sure you can't use a 69, may be a bit easier to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted March 11, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted March 11, 2020 I have 2. Looking for an early Spring out of hibernation ski.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mortyski Posted March 13, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 13, 2020 I have one. $4 k and two tons of donuts and I’ll throw in the shipping. Hi from Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mortyski Posted March 14, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 14, 2020 @A_B As you can tell I’m not interested in selling. Jay the whisper fin guru gave me a two fin set up. My ski is in Montana so I can’t take a photo of it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted March 14, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted March 14, 2020 @Mortyski I have a Sanitized 69 Lithium Senate (COVID-19 free) and my wife’s Apple Pie, you will need to get ice cream, and I will even throw in her ancient family recipe for Hungarian Stuffed Cabbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mortyski Posted March 14, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 14, 2020 A_B that’s a tempting offer but I’m too big for the 69! My wife wants the recipe. I think I’ll put a HRT on it this summer and replace the mooring lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DaveD Posted March 15, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 15, 2020 I think @A_B and @Mortyski should be negotiating international trade agreements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mortyski Posted March 16, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 16, 2020 @DaveD Thanks for the comment....the USA and Canada can use a little humour right about now. I actually do spend a lot of time in international work but sadly the negotiations are not over donuts or stuffed cabbage. @A_B have you thought about the Senate Pro or played with the Whisper Fin or the Denali fins yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JayG80 Posted March 16, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 16, 2020 @Mortyski what is the 2 fin setup? I’m running a 2 wing setup as per Fin Whispering book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mortyski Posted March 16, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 16, 2020 @JayG80 I have the Fin Whispering book too (autographed) ....my son skis at Predator Bay and Jay is there from time to time so we get a chance to talk to him. He suggested a two fin set up for me. My prized 71 inch Lithium Senate is in Montana and I'm in Calgary so it's difficult to get a photo for you at this time. The second fin seems to support my fully grown size. I've seen @A_B ski and he can rip so I suspect he wants the 71 inch version for some slower deep line passes, which is why I asked him if he had played with the aftermarket fins that people are talking about. I'm sure the second fin doesn't impact the turning that much but supports the weight better. I have not tried the Whisper Fin but my son has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted March 16, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted March 16, 2020 I have a Denali fin and have modified my stock fins for RFF relief ports, even bent a wing, but didn't notice that much from it. I like the relief ports on a standard fin though. Made the offside turn finish better. I have a new 2020 Lithium Senate on the way. I could sell the 69" 2016 Lithium Senate if anyone is looking. That would leave me with the 2019 Pro Build 69" and the 2020 71" Lithium, not a bad bunch to pick from. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JayG80 Posted March 16, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 16, 2020 @mortyski I have one fin on my ski with 2 wings on that single fin. One wing is set at zero wing angle and positioned 1/2 inch below the bottom of the ski. This wing is forward (towards the leading edge) on the fin. The other wing is in the normal location on the fin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mortyski Posted March 17, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 17, 2020 Thanks @JayG80 That double wing set up sounds familiar I can’t remember the exact dimensions though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted March 17, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 17, 2020 I ran the double wing on my 69.5" Vapor Pro. Worked great. Called it the biplane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mortyski Posted March 18, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 18, 2020 @SkiJay has anyone used the double wings on your Whisper Fin? Seems to me if you did you would have to drill some extra holes for the horizon front fin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mortyski Posted March 18, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 18, 2020 @A_B and @JayG80 and @UWSkier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mortyski Posted March 19, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 19, 2020 Ok all you big boys @SkiJay was very kind to respond to my question about Whisper Fin and double wings. He sent me this photo indicating great success with this set up. I’m looking forward to trying it this summer if I can get to Montana to get my ski. Anyone one who makes the sawed off front wing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mortyski Posted March 19, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 19, 2020 Oops anyone know who makes the sawed off wing* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mortyski Posted March 19, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 19, 2020 Here's a picture of how to mount a ventral on the WhisperFin. The red circle is the critical part. If you mounted a second wing with its leading edge in the same place, you'd not affect the performance properties of the WhisperFin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ballsohard Posted March 21, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 21, 2020 @Mortyski what differences do you feel with 2 wings vs 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mortyski Posted March 21, 2020 Baller Share Posted March 21, 2020 @ballsohard with two wings the ski glided better and did not stall or lose elevation at the turn apex. The two wings did not seem to hinder the turn ability of the ski. You don’t need a lot of angle on the back wing so keep it quite neutral. I’ve asked @SkiJay a lot of questions about big guys on Whisper fins. He has been kind enough to give me details and permission to share the information. Stay tuned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegaskid Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 @Mortyski, I'm a big skier (250#) looking for a new ski and found this thread when I searched for 71 inch Lithium Senate. Do you think the 71 Senate is large enough for a guy my size? Currently ski on a 71 inch HO Triumph. Also interested in what you've learned about the two fin setup, I've never heard of that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted June 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 3, 2020 @vegaskid I'm 6'5" 250 and the 71 Lithium is excellent for me at 34 MPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mortyski Posted June 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 3, 2020 @vegaskid I answered your questions on a different thread that you should also read. I got a lot of information from @SkiJay on the two wing set up and wrote quite a lot of details on that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipkimball Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 @vegaskid I am bigger than you - 295# and ski on the 71 Senate and LOVE IT!! I have tried lots of big boy skis and the Lithium Senate is an awesome stick. I also put on the whisper fin set up. Good luck and have fun!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mortyski Posted June 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 4, 2020 @chipkimball...did you set up the two wings on the Whisper fin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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