R-style with cuff

[aupatking]

Anyone ever tried a rear Reflex shell with the cuff in place, but the boot hard-mounted like an R-Style?

I removed the upper (ankle) strap from the cuff, but before I take an angle grinder to it, I wondered about the necessity to remove it.

I question certain release angles, I suppose, but I’m just wondering about others opinions

 

[skialex]

I question some release angles too, it will work same as without it in an OTF, that’s what I believe. I don’t think you need the extra support of the cuff, but I was thinking that If someone wants the feel of a full boot he can use a r-style shell with a full liner and a cuff strapped around it. So in a release case, cuff stays with the leg. I prefer classic D3 style RTP though.

[thager]

I tried that arrangement but found the cuff catching the water since it is on a narrower portion of the ski.

[PatM]

The buckles are not right for release. You will notice that the buckles on a R-Style are closer together and more on the toes and balls of your feet. That upper buckle may make it hard (injury causing) to release at all.

[Andre]

Also, middle strap need to be move toward the toes if you want to stay true to a real Reflex.

[mbabiash]

Best rear hybrid is the Goode. It’s a powershell 5 cut down. It’s not cut down as low as reflex and buckles are

In normal position. They are micro adjustable too.

 

[BraceMaker]

I would wonder if you could put an velcro elastic across the front of the cuff and cut the rear completely away. The strap could keep it from catching water while giving some side to side stability and the heel could come up and out still.

[Cfootin]

I like the idea. I am using the type R rear now. How about a little piece of bungee around the top ankle to hold it together? I think the extra side ankle support will help edge control. Thanks.

[glasslake]

Fluid Motion's EVO RS rear boot has a similar concept with bungee laces instead of buckles.

[Deanoski]

You can mount the upper cuff on the inside Of the lower shell it will catch less water

[aupatking]

@mbabiash send me that C-75 and I’ll let you know how my new R-style design testing goes

[jimski]

Why would you not just use a rear boot

[mmosley899]

@Cfootin actually the added side support can interfere with edge control for a lot of skiers.

 

@mbabiash leaving the upper buckle that far up above your arch can restrict release and strain ligaments.

 

@aupatking i am using a single buckle just below the height of my arch. My rear half boot is cut low around my ankle, you don’t need the rear cuff. As mentioned above use the full height liner with a Velcro strap to keep the feel of double boots if you want. My rear liner is cut down to the top of the half boot.

[mmosley899]

@jimski my daughter was using a loose fitting double wrap rubber rear boot in an out the front fall at last years national and broke her foot. After trying several different rear style boots, including the Radar HRT which she liked a lot but it did not fit her small foot, we are testing a new design for a rear rubber boot that will release easier.

 

The more experienced and proficient skier you are will allow you to get away with using a standard wrap rubber rear boot, until that one fall...

[aupatking]

I just picked up the extra boot and am not RFF. Just thought before I hack it to bits I’d ask what others have done/seen. It’s hitting the sawzall this evening. Thanks @mmosley899. I remembered you told me something about which buckle and where, but couldn’t remember. Should make a nice backup setup.

[mbabiash]

@aupatking

My buddy is using it and is loving the c75. I haven’t even tried it because I’m loving my Goode 9970cc so much. I’ve ridden a lot of skis I. The last 3 years and I’ve never felt this good on a ski.

Sorry. Off topic. Carry on.

[Garn]

@mbabiash I don't see a r-style rear boot on Goode's website.

[aupatking]

They don’t appear to show it individually, @Garn . If you look it up under the G-flex boot system you’ll see you can buy the rear, and see the picture.

http://store.goode.com/power-g-flex-hard-shell-boot-system/

[mbabiash]

FYI the pic on the website is not how they are making them now. Bundle buckle stays where it is and the liner is now a finished low liner. And it’s not cut down as low. It really is a nice product. I’ve had the reflex r style and this one is better. Foot comes out perfectly.

[mbabiash]

Actually after looking at the pic on Goode site. The shell is cut just like pice but buckle isn’t moved down.

[Garn]

@aupatking @mbabiash Thank you!