Baller Steven_Haines Posted June 21, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 21, 2021 I’m looking for an over sized wing. Goode used to make them but I don’t see that they offer them anymore on their website. Is there another place that I could locate one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eyepeeler Posted June 21, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 21, 2021 I have a couple lying around...SchnitzMaster has them I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 21, 2021 Administrators Share Posted June 21, 2021 why? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted June 21, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted June 21, 2021 Recommendation from The Fin Whisperer to help add support in the tail of my ski until I shed a few more pounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted June 21, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted June 21, 2021 Eyepeeler, I looked on Schnitz’s website and didn’t see any. Would you be willing to part with one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller riplash Posted June 21, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 21, 2021 Does anybody have a 3 view of one, or know how much larger than a standard wing it is? I have 3D printed standard size wings out of PETG and ABS. I can share the DXF or STL if you want. Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted June 21, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted June 21, 2021 Hey, I found one in another discussion! Here you go: Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted June 21, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 21, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted June 21, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted June 21, 2021 Riplash thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted June 21, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted June 21, 2021 Lpskier and thager… sooooper helpful! Thanks! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted June 21, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted June 21, 2021 @Steven_Haines Interesting suggestion from Jay. What was Jays rational or explanation as to why a larger wing would support you better? What did he mean by support? What issues were you having?. I get it’s bigger but it also will add drag assuming similar wing angle as the reg sized one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted June 21, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 21, 2021 @Steven_Haines The large wing is the first product on the list. http://www.schnitzskis.com/finswings.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted June 22, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted June 22, 2021 @Wish Jay was saying that for a bigger guy, he could try running the wing flat to add more support to the rear of the ski. And also an oversized wing ran flat will help add more support to the tail of the ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted June 22, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted June 22, 2021 @MattP thanks I’ll take a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted June 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2021 @Steven_Haines I ran Jay's biplane setup on my 2016 Vapor and it made a world of difference. I ran both wings effectively parallel to the ski bottom. Also had the fin forward a bit and the bindings as far forward as they'd go. For a 250 lb guy skiing a Vapor at 34MPH it worked great. The additional tail support was much needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller riplash Posted June 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2021 I will put the files on thingiverse today or tonight and let you know what I call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted June 22, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted June 22, 2021 @UWSkier, it sure does. Are you using one of the whisper fins? I’ve tried the boos forward but that seems to take away some of the flow for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted June 22, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted June 22, 2021 Thanks @riplash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted June 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2021 @Steven_Haines this was a standard Radar fin. I moved to a 71 and don't need that setup with the larger ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller riplash Posted June 23, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 23, 2021 The files can be found on Thingiverse as: Water Ski Wing by Riplash June 22, 2021. I included the STL file as well as the DXF file, and a Sketchup File if you want to change the dimensions or design. I will probably draw it in Fusion360 too sometime in the future. I ran out of time to get pictures, but I will upload pictures as soon as I can. Let me know if everything looks okay, as this is first upload to Thingiverse. -Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted June 23, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted June 23, 2021 @UWSkier , just curious. Did you try the single wing first and then add the second one later? My question is, did you notice a difference between 1 wing versus 2 in regards to speed and support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted June 23, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 23, 2021 @Steven_Haines I went to the 2 wing setup because I was having difficulty with offside turns and excessive bevel engagement too early, leading to a porpoising type turn if I wasn't in precisely the correct spot. I ran single wing for 2 years before going to the double. I used standard wings. I noticed that this setup improved support and gave the ski a wider performance envelope (for me). There was a slight reduction in smear so I bumped fin forward a tad to get the turn radius where I wanted it. But the porpoising turns completely went away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted June 23, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted June 23, 2021 @UWSkier, thanks for your response. What I’m finding is that with the whisper fin I can get the ski to turn well, but I’m finding that the ski isn’t carrying enough speed to stay in a good rhythm with the boat. I’m struggling to get wide and struggling to stay wide. Losing weight or getting a larger ski is the obvious answer but beer is soooooo good! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted June 23, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 23, 2021 Mine was a 2016 Probuild prototype, which was a rocket. Plenty of speed with and without the wing. I didn't really notice a difference in speed, just tail lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted June 23, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted June 23, 2021 @UWSkier, thanks. It seems that with support comes speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted June 26, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted June 26, 2021 Ok this actually works. 2 short sets, one on a standard wing and one on an oversized (off an old Goode). Went half a degree less. Basically it put the ski at a better pitch (flatter) in the turns engaging the forbody of the ski sooner and better with zero loss of speed...actually it carried more and equal angle that I liked. Less effort to ski overall. I’ve added a few Covid pounds and until that is gone, big wing it is. Kind of a brilliant way to not have to make a bunch of boot and fin moves to compensate for a few extra pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted June 26, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 26, 2021 I Ski a pond that is fast use the big wing The other lake I ski is slow so I use the standard wing Both at 10 degrees Works great easy to change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted June 28, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted June 28, 2021 @Wish, pretty slick huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MNshortliner Posted June 28, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2021 Any of you have a picture of these over sized wings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mortyski Posted June 28, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2021 Guys you might want to do a search for "Whisper Fin for Big Guys" on this forum...there is lots of good information in that thread including photos and instructions. @SkiJay definitely knows his stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skialex Posted June 28, 2021 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2021 @MNshortliner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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